Socom Goes Under the Knife

[D.LEE]

Originally Posted by Determined.Soldier

Well overall I would prefer to include the knife attack. I would like it if you could pick it as your secondary weapon, and use it to kill people like crazy, crazy fun ha, but it would be a pain if you just go up to someone and stab them and they die, like someone said before, slashing them. There should be limits if it is included in the game release. Rifle bunts should also be included but like when you hit someone it won't kill them, it will stun them, like they will fall back, but there still on there feet.

I like your idea of the rifle butt, it should be like a flashbang, your screen goes white when you get hit.

[Scuba Steve]

If a rifle butt attack was implemented, I think it should do more than just stun someone.

Think about it, you have to be facing a player to perform the attack. You will very rarely get that close to use the attack, so when you do, it should do more than stun the player. I'm not saying it should kill the enemy, I'm not saying it shouldn't, either, though.

[Negative Creep]

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve

Well, there has been a heated thread at the PS forums about the knife attack and Confrontation. I know a lot of us here have always put it in one of the wish lists, but to our surprise, it was never implemented.

I was wondering what everyone thought of Confrontation having a knife attack. Keep in mind, it would not be a slashing type attck, like COD 4, but the single player attack Socom games have had. Some people do not want it at the PS forums, but they cannot back up their idea with any reasons.

I am all for it, as I, like many others, have wanted it since Socom 1.

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve

If a rifle butt attack was implemented, I think it should do more than just stun someone.

Think about it, you have to be facing a player to perform the attack. You will very rarely get that close to use the attack, so when you do, it should do more than stun the player. I'm not saying it should kill the enemy, I'm not saying it shouldn't, either, though.

Yet another of the 3,750 times I have agreed with your thoughts on Socom...

Rifle butt damage? I say 1/4 or 1/2 damage... so it's not an instant kill, unless the opponent is damaged already.

[Determined.Soldier]

Originally Posted by D.LEE

I like your idea of the rifle butt, it should be like a flashbang, your screen goes white when you get hit.

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve

If a rifle butt attack was implemented, I think it should do more than just stun someone.

Think about it, you have to be facing a player to perform the attack. You will very rarely get that close to use the attack, so when you do, it should do more than stun the player. I'm not saying it should kill the enemy, I'm not saying it shouldn't, either, though.

Originally Posted by Negative Creep

Yet another of the 3,750 times I have agreed with your thoughts on Socom...

Rifle butt damage? I say 1/4 or 1/2 damage... so it's not an instant kill, unless the opponent is damaged already.

There are a lot of variables to consider though when you put the idea of a rifle bunt in there. Like should it kill you right off, stun you like a flash bang, or if it should do a random damage, or any type of thing like that. I would be surprised to what they do if they do decide to put this in to the game.

[OME6A]

I like D.Lee's idea. White screen like the flashbang, cause it would seriously pwn your face if you got rifle butted.

[Subject 17]

In socom 3, it was 1/3 damage. keep it where it is.

[Scuba Steve]

Originally Posted by Negative Creep

Yet another of the 3,750 times I have agreed with your thoughts on Socom...

Rifle butt damage? I say 1/4 or 1/2 damage... so it's not an instant kill, unless the opponent is damaged already.

W00t!

I agree that it should do at least half damage to a player. However, I don't see it being performed that much, as it would be difficult to get the edge on a player from the front. Unless, of course, they were blinded by a flashbang.

[Determined.Soldier]

Yeah I guess that is a good idea. The fact that if they have half of you r life left a rifle bunt will will kill them. Also about the flashbang idea. Where you would get blinded if you rifle bunt them, and then they would fall back a little.

On another note I hope that there will be few to no glitches in the game. Just saying so on the side.

[OME6A]

I haven't encountered a single glitch in the 360 version of Call of Duty 4, which is entirely off-topic.

[Jimdalf]

Knife attack is fine if performed from behind a slow moving enemy. A simple bash on the X button and a second or two later the other chap is dead. Not an instant death... you ever tried to unsheath and employ a knife when you have a combat load on? Its not a speedy maneuovre. I would hate SOCOM to go down the CoD road and have one button melee attacks that you can use at any time. CoD3 needed melees due to some weapons being ****ing terible at short range, but MW didn't need it and neither should any shooter set on the modern battlefield. The BFMC system of selecting the knife from the inventory is only a bit slower than a single button press and I wouldn't object to that.

Thumping people with rifles though, I don't like the idea of that. First off the Bullpup weapons, particularly the SA 80, would just die if they were used to bash someone's skull. Firing mechanism is in the rifle butt, so it would absorb the shock. Not good. Anyway, to be realistic it would have to be a one hit kill... a rifle swung into your face is no small occurence so, despite not killing you straight off, you are in absolutely no position to resist further aggression.

And anyway... if I need to resort to direct physical violence in the form of sticking my rifle in the other fellow's face I am right in front of him, and he is aware of my presence, yeah? So stealth is out the window. Adios. So its a simple matter of which muppet can press X fastest when both weapons are empty. If he is within your reach, you are within his. So its just a matter of presing a button. Inventories can't be involved, since surely you already have the weapon equipped? So one press of a button should kill the other guy when I was incapable of killing him with twenty, thirty, fifty bullets? Not a chance. I value aim, not ability to bash buttons.

If a rifle butt function was to be intorduced the the only weapons it can realistically be applied to are thrity calibre sniper rifles. The rest of the weapons would be useless (M82) or wouldn't require a melee attack.