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Old 07-06-2005   #21
 
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Yeah, I mean, IMO the M14 is the only decent gun available for the terrorists. If they ban it I wont be happy at all.
I cant beileve u just said that but......get the m16, ak, stg, 552!
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Iw 80 should definatley remain a banned gun as i went 20-5 with it on x roads my worst level two days ago. M14 should not be banned as a terrorist as even though it takes little to no skill to use it is the best alround terrorist unbanned wepon. The m16a2 is really good in a non laggy game but in lag it suks especially up close. What annoys me is when a seal uses an m14 as there are so many other good seal weapons and they choose the m14 mainly cos they cant shoot 4 **** aqnd dont have the skill to aim 4 the headshot or get a kill with a gun like the ak105 which once masttered is on a par with the m14 anyway.

When the terrorists decide to rush with m14s it can be annoying and hectic but like with it or use an m4a1sd if u haven the skill.

M14 banning ;no as terrorist
Yes as seals
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every weapon sprays and almost everybody sprays. even with m14 and weapons don't make low frame rate. low frame rate is caused if a lot of people shoot at the same region this causes the game to track to much bullets and this causes a low frame rate. when all the terrorist and seals bump into each other then there will be 1 frame a minute. (sort of speak) Because every body is fire ring at the same time but the faster a gun shoots the more bullets and that means less frame rate. And what happens to be the case with the m14 it shoots really fast.

socom can't handle to much bullets and nades at the same time. (vigilance frost and fish) and the host is an important factor as well. (needs to have lots of upload) And when people don't die is because of package loss containing the impact info.

http://www.socom3.com/socom3/viewtopic.php?t=12694
some more info regarding host.

Banning m14 won't solve the lag problem better host do solve it. What would be a big improvement is that everybody resets his modem once in a while.(reduces package loss) and if we should ban weapons start with Hk's and Uzi’s they cause real low frame rate. because the more bullets a gun shoots a sec the more lag socom gets. (frame rate is often mistaken for lag but this is pop talk).

if you look at this you'd say I would based on this like to ban the m14. but then there will be a huge gun gap. what will the terrorist do against the m4a1 sd. let me just point out how strong the seals really are.

weapon -bullets in chest. Acc (r1 was pushed down) speed 1/5
m4a1- 2 + s- 4 552- 3 -+ s- 3
m4 sd- 3 ++ s- 4 552 sd- 4 -+ s- 3
ak 105 3 ++ s- 3 ak 47- 3 ++ s-2
Ra - 3 + s- 3 aks – 3 + s -3
iw - 3 ++ s- 5 stg- 3 - s-5
m14 - 2 - s- 5 m14- 2 - s-5

this doesn't seem to bad but every seal bullets does do more damage and all the seal guns are more accurate and therefore better from a distance.

hand guns (most used power only )
mark 23- 2 de.50-1
mark sd- 3 model- 6
sp 10 - 3 m9 - 6
226 - 6
F57 - 6

They really need to ban the mark 23 is as strong as an m14 but you get the idea. again this is bullets in chest and the distance doesn't matter the bullets have the same strength. but banning the m14 gives the terrorist huge disadvantages the no longer have an offence. So the terrorist are forced to camp this is not bad in FH Sujo Eno DG. But in any other map the terrors are dead meat. but un banning the m3 would make a difference.
And most people rush because they search for fast kills and they just want to have fun. People just don’t like to use tactics outside clan wars.

don't ban the m14 unless you want the terrors to be sitting ducklings waiting for there salvation.
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I would rather take an m16 on xroads over an m14 anyday
Yea but if the banning of guns keeps going at this rate then we're going to have to use smoke grenades to kill ourselves.
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M14 is just a gun, stop complaining!
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I must say, I was all for the banning of the iw. A gun too overpowering for its own good. I for a fact became a much better player when I used it.
But to ban the m14 is IMO a very strange thing to do. Why ban a gun that both teams can use? Where is the logic ?
As for the m14 being the only good gun the terrorist have ? Lol. Learn how to use a 552 sd. You will be laughing at those that think you are stupid for using it. And that AKS! Very powerful gun.
It takes skill to use these guns (skill that I don't posess sadly lol) But I can tell you, put the effort in, and don't follow the crowd and you will definitely enjoy the game more because however much effort you put in affects how much you get out of the game.
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M14 takes no skill thats why its banned. If you get an MVP without the m14 as a terrorist you know you are good at the game without nooby sprayers.
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Jezz, if it takes no skill at all to use, which I agree with to a certain extent, then feel happy about yourself knowing that you are a better player than them!
I dont tend to use it at all, I'm more of a 12 gauge kind of guy.
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this is the wepons that have been "banned" GL's, M6*, IW, M3, M14...and iv heard complains about the rpg's and at4, also the HK5K, 9MM SUB...why ban any wepons at all, its just a game....take it or leave it!
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Banning of these weapons makes the game more enjoyable
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