m14-`***THE FINAL VERDICT***'

[xa]

Originally Posted by c0mmand3r

and you keep getting killed with the M4A1sd, what are you going to do? No M14 according to you...only option is the m16.

That is just a stupid statement. Terrorist weapons are for the most part equal, if you can't deal with an M4A1-SD then you suck at socom.

In The SMG department you have a little old 9mm sub. Terrible accuracy, recoil, and noise. Not to mention it is very weak and terrible with headshots. The only plus side is the large clip size which doesn't help if you are shooting peas at the seals! The F90 you say! Well, again with the extended clip size. However, this is a more accurate and weaker version of the 9mm sub. Not ideal.

The 9mm Sub is a fine weapon, I've gotten kills in wars with this against M14's.

Same goes with the Silenced version of the 552. It is less accurate, weaker, and loader than the M4A1sd, the apparant "equivalant" to the 552 weapons. PSSSSHHH what a load of CRAP.

The 552-SD is a great weapon, it's more silent and has a higher accuracy. You see, there is this place on most peoples body called the head. If you shoot it, whoever owns it will probably die. Learn to shoot it.

Then you got your crappy sniper rifles and pistols. Sure theDE and Model 18 are worth defending. But the M82 is less accurate and takes more time to steady than the m87. These are nearly identical, but the m87 is clearly better. The SASR....please.

The SASR does suck, but the M82 is actually more accurate. The terrorist pistols are also MUCH better close range.

So while seals are owning everything with the RA, M4, M4sd, HK5sd, HK5, HK5K, and not to mention their SILENCED AUTOMATIC SNIPER RIFLE which pwns everything. We will be limited to .... the Ak47 and STG? Are you serious? To be quite honest, I agree the M14 is too powerfull. However, show me one way where the terrorist arsenal is even close to equal with the seals. Terrorists using the M14 is fine in my book, but when a Seal has the nerve to pick one up all hell breaks loose. I HATE THAT. YOU HAVE 22 GUNS OF PURE GLORY THAT PWN EVERYTHING AND YOU ONLY USE THE M14.

I'd have to agree, SEAL weapons are a bit better in my opinion and there should be absolutely NO time when a SEAL uses one.

Terrorists need the M14 and you cannot defend that comment. Seals DO NOT need the m14. The terrorists are supremely GIMPED by not having m14s because they are reserved to one of 4 weapon choices after that as a gunner. (M60, AK47, STG, M16). This compared to the onslought of seal weaponry, including 3 POWERFUL silenced weapons (one of which a fully auto sniper rifle), coming right at them.

The terrorists should have more skill in general. Terrorists are not reserved to 4 choices. These are the decent if not great guns the terrorists have.
F90
AK-47
AKS-74
9mm Sub
M60E3
M63A
552-SD
STG-77

[c0mmand3r]

I want you to die, xa. By the way, don't ever say I suck at socom again because you have seen me play and know FIRST HAND that I own, especially YOU! Those are my comments and I am sticking with them. The seal weapons are much better and it shows as clear as day. If you cannot see that then, xa, my poor, ignorant, bastard of a crappy, former clan mate, you are the one who sucks at socom. That or you forgot since you never play because you are too young.

[xa]

That's a pretty fair argument
"I'd have to agree, SEAL weapons are a bit better in my opinion and there should be absolutely NO time when a SEAL uses one[m14]. "

I mean really I admitted their weapons are slightly better. I don't think the M14 is a n00b cannon. I think of it more as an Easy Kill gun, where I can put minimal effort and get the same results. And yes, since I haven't been playing for a while I have left. Really I have just been busy and tired since the teachers are working us really hard, and on weekends I can finally see my friend(that I haven't seen in months thanks to the damn boarding school he got a scholarship for). Yes, I admit it socom has not been my priority. And by the way, I'm as old as otter is so I'm a bit confused by you calling me too young.

[bernard]

every seal gun and terror gun (main guns) all take 2-3 schots but the main difference is that the seal guns are dead accurate.

hand guns here is where it gets interesting.

mark - 3 shots
marksd 3 shots
sp 10 - 3 shots
9 mm- 3/4shots
m11- 6 shots
all of these guns are dead accurate

Terrors

226-6 shots
m10-6 shots
model 18- 6 shots
f57- 6 shots
De.50- 1 shot
inaccurate

this has been tested in vigilance respawn terrorist spawn in the sniper building.

the seals have a clear advantage with the seal al you have to do is get the crosshairs on a terror and shoot. but with the terrorsists you'll have to wait after every 3 bullets to get accurate again.(burst)

So when i'm in a room playing terror (my favorite side) and m14 is banned only the seals would own us. and not because of me im an m16 fan but because there is no defence for my terror companions.




and whats your problem it sounds like you don't know how to own a m14 even with superior guns like the m4 and ak105. And i think socom is pretty boring with no m14 no resistance as a seal.

[FOX`]

GOD DAMN IT. I CAN'T KILL THIS GUY SO I'M GOING TO BLAME IT ON THE GUN.

That's all I see...

Guns don't kill people, people kill people... Proven by my logical play by play of how a someone dies:

PERSON A PULLS TRIGGER > BULLET FIRES > PERSON B GETS HIT WITH BULLET

It all started with PERSON A pointing and firing the weapon in the first place.

The gun didn't make you die. The person did.

And if you don't comprehend that then your logic needs some fine adjusting.

[Wabba]

I have to point this out

Originally Posted by Dillen

but ensigns don't really count, they arent human

How can this statement NOT be proven wrong?

Christ, its not even worth arguing with this guy, these are his opinions!

Whats next, "If YoU uSe GrEnAdEs, YoO ArE a PaNsY?!"
Jeez

[CrAnK66]

I GOT OFF THIS GAME LIKE 9 MTHS AGO AND THE IW WASNT EVEN A NEWB GUN.Now when i got back on the m14 is a noob gun. wow it is on the game you shold be able to use it. I think when u get owned with a TA its not a noob gun. if a bunch of pepoe starting using it it would become one that is the only reason it is one. The m14 is a gun that is good adn does require a little skill, i mean you do need to knw how to play alittle dont you?!? You even bringing this thread out is prbly one of the dumbest thing i have heard of in a while.

[Erg]

ahh yes another m14 thread


dillen no one gives **** about if you think the M14 is a noob gn. The M14 just like any other gun can be beaten with any other gun. Ive beaten M14s with the M23SD and the 9mm pistol. Ive killed M14 users before they can even react (yes i sniped them...alot of them)

So heres the bottom line, if your getting owned by a gun change it up. get to know sniping or claymores a little better. and find an edge that will help you beat them if your that bad, just think a little



















oh yeah...you cant

[OTTER]

No, HERE'S the final verdict.

People will always sue M14's, it's an easy kill gun. People will always use M14's regardless if you come on here and have your little tantrum, so get over it.

[dillen]

you guys are really defending your m14's arent you?