Awesome Way To Win On Fish Hook

[AL GIORDINO]

Since we were talking about Fish Hook as Seals in another new thread, I was thinking of my favorite technique for when I'm a Terrorist and completely outnumbered. It's a great way to get a win or a draw, even if it's 8 vs 1. However it requires quickness, skill, and a little bit of luck.

You can only do this trick when the Seals HAVEN'T blown the right breach.. and that particular breach doesn't get blown most rounds, so you can usually do this.

What you do is grab the hostages (or perhaps you already have them) and then head out the rear entrance of the hostage building, and go towards the right side of the map towards the balcony. You don't need to wait for the hostages, they will catch up with you. So make them follow, then run towards the right side of the map and jump off the Terrorist balcony over there. When you land, go right, into the area of the right breach. Turn around and keep an eye out for Seals. Do this as fast as possible and DON'T worry or wait about the hostages, they will get to you.

Once your in position, the breach should be behind you and a little towards your left, about 6-8 feet away. You should be just behind the corner, looking down the hallway towards the outside. . Keep an eye out for Seals while your hostages catch up to you.

I honestly don't know what route the hostages take to get there, but eventually the hostages will come to you. You have to be careful because Seals will see them running around but have no clue where they are going or where your at, but they can follow the hostages. However a lot of the time they think it's just someone else on their team thats rescuing the hostages... since your only doing this when Seals vastly outnumber you.

Once the hostages get to you, position them around the breach and in the hallway near you. Camp it and keep an eye out for the one way Seals can come: from the outside tunnel below the balcony, leading into the right breach. This method works great! The Seals can't blow the breach because you have the hostages too close. If they do, you win. They can't throw a nade because it will obviously kill all the hostages and give you a win. And they can't run in there because its so easy to see them coming and pop out and kill them... or sit back behind all the hostages while they shoot them and you.

The coolest thing is that if they don't follow the hostages, they really will have no clue where your at, and they'll look everywhere to find you.. and trust me, guys don't expect you to be hiding in this spot, so when they come along, blast them. That being said, don't be afraid to let them know where you are either. This is one of the best defensive positions that I know of in the game. If the hostages just got there, maybe take a risk and fire a few shots. Maybe some noob will be near you and chuck a nade or blow the breach. That's what we are going for, because the way you win this is getting the Seals to kill the hostages. Otherwise it's just going to be a draw.

Whenever I do this trick, I usually win. The key is getting the hostages to follow you, then getting into that right breach area as fast as you goddamn can, and waiting enough time for the hostages to get to you... and then setting them up properly. But it usually works. At first, spectators on your team may be like "WTF is he doing??" but then they will be really surprised when they see your expertise, and realize you know exactly what your doing.

Seals just don't know how to counter this trick, so they either do something stupid like throw a nade and kill all the hostages, or breach it anyway and kill them, or just wait it out and get the draw. Either way, it works out for your side. If your outnumbered, just go for this. The odds of defeating 4-6 guys are a lot less than pulling off this trick, trust me.

Anyway, give it a whirl and let me know how it goes.

[Lilkilla]

Ive done something similar to that. I put the hostages at the other side of the right breach at the beginning of the game just to be funny. The SEALS were such idoits they blew up the breach and we won.

[Jayshift]

Sounds very interesting.....looks like I've got a new tactic to try out this weekend!

Thanks for the great post Al

[Erg]

Al i did get 100% where do YOU camp? behind the hostages near the right breach? and wont the hostages move out of the way of the breach if a c4 is placed like in DG?


just questions Al.

[AL GIORDINO]

Nono, your INSIDE the right breach. Thats why you have to jump off the right Terrorist balcony. Then theres only one way the Seals can come at you.. through that tunnel. So you just stay behind the corner and watch it.

The only other option is for them to breach it from the Terrorist side, which kills the hostages. The hostages can't move out of the way because the space is so confined.

##########BALCONY##
B..H###......#
BH..###......#
BH..###.......<--.
#..T###......<---Seals come in this way only
#................#
#########

Ok get it? The B is the breach. The H is the hostages. The T is you, hiding just behind the corner. The # represents walls. The ... is open floor.

[BlueBallz]

You can be shot in the back of the legs from under the breach behind you, I use the same camping spot as a seal. You could always use the hostages to block but they usually move if you shoot them as a seal. Besides that its a good camping spot until you get those newbies who run balls out up the stairs and take 6 bullets to the chest like they have kevlar on.. and they manage to kill you like usual. I win more 3v1's(and 4v1,5v1) with claymores in that spot than I lose, but lag is usually the reason I lose or just too many grenades since I dont have the hostages to cover me.

[AL GIORDINO]

Originally Posted by BlueBallz

You can be shot in the back of the legs from under the breach behind you, I use the same camping spot as a seal. You could always use the hostages to block but they usually move if you shoot them as a seal. Besides that its a good camping spot until you get those newbies who run balls out up the stairs and take 6 bullets to the chest like they have kevlar on.. and they manage to kill you like usual. I win more 3v1's(and 4v1,5v1) with claymores in that spot than I lose, but lag is usually the reason I lose or just too many grenades since I don't have the hostages to cover me.

I think if your chilling by the corner its impossible for even your feet to get shot from outside the breach. At least its never happened to me. But if your closer to the breach they can probably hit you. Either way, if you have the hostages, put them all near the breach. They can't move far enough when its breached or a nade is thrown cuz theres nowhere to go...

Here's another tip to kill guys that rush that tunnel and take 6 bullets to the chest and kill you after they die. First, get your gun lined up on what you think is head level. Do this before you step out. This means your aiming at the wall, but if you moved to the right where its open, it would aproximately be on head level. Then keep it lined up with where they will come from. Wait until they are directly to the right of your crosshair, then pop out at them.

Also, if you start firing at the wall a split second before you pop out to the right, it will help counteract the lag. Then if you don't get them with that first burst (which you should if you do this right) move back behind the wall and try and run behind the hostages. Hopefully they come in guns blazing and kill the hostages, if not, take careful shots from where you are, dance and move and try and get the Seals to accidently kill the hostages instead of you. Plus remember, if they kill 2, you can kill the last 1 and get the win.

Ok another tip for this spot is bouncing nades off walls. It's a great spot to do it. If you see Seals outside and you know they are discussing what to do, or about to rush, you can do this. Use the walls to your advantage, and you can get them all the way down the tunnel to near the outside, without exposing yourself! This is also cool when theres 30-45 seconds left, if you have enough nades, you can just keep chucking them every few seconds until time runs out and you get the draw.

Really this tip is fun and cool to pull off, but it really only should be used when your the last Terrorist left vs multiple guys.

If you want to try it, grab the hostages and wait til your whole team is almost dead, then go for it. It's fun to say the least. Very satisfying when you turn an almost definate loss into a win or draw.

[Deathmonger]

Eh, too hard to set up, seals can just start shooting at the wall and when you pop out and kill them you'll take shots or die. I play with tons of really good clans and the Enowapi ramp isn't that big of deal anymore, if you know they're there, you shoot where they will be at, you may not get a kill but you may wound them for the next person.

I like trying to get the Seals to kill the hostages, it's an overlooked tactic because people will just camp instead. Here are some of the places where I've gotten them to get killed.
1. Right breach, placing them infront of it
2. Near the balcony or on it, throw nades and shoot to attract attenion because Seals can't really see the hostages, it's kinda suicide but it wins the round.
3. Left tunnel, end of it, if Seals throw nades to eliminate a possible camper.
4. On the catwalk above the middle breach because it'll kill the hostages if they blow it.
5. In the very back of the wall, nromally seals won't throw nades there, but occassionally they do.
6. In the hostage building on the top of the stairs. I put a mines near the top and seals will try to throw a ndes to blow it up and kill the hostages.


The spots that work best are probably the balcony, left tunnel and right breach. The left tunnel and balcony are the best because on Seals radar it looks like the hostages are being kept in the boat house or the hostage building.

[AL GIORDINO]

It's NOT too hard to set up, in fact its extremely easy. Get the hostages to follow you, and don't wait for them, just run to the spot and they will catch up to you.

The point here isn't getting the hostages killed, it's about when your completely outnumbered and getting the draw instead of a loss. This isn't something you are going to do every time you play Fish Hook.