Barry Bonds petition

[SlasherMovieGuy]

Break down Bonds swing frame by frame. When he's on, it's almost perfect the only player who probably looks better is either Ken Griffey Jr or A. Rod but he's just amazing and I'm assuming he will shatter the home run record by like another 200 homers anyways so arguing over bonds really won't be all that important in the future.

What I'm trying to say is no athlete can be great unless they have true athletic ability, and immediately targeting someone for performance enhancing drugs doesn't give me enough to despise the person. If they're caught then I just don't take them serious. I've noticed too any athlete who comes out of no where and has huge success all of a sudden is probably doing something. Like the tour de france guy, the sprinter who broke the 100m dash record, or the female shot putter in the last olympics. Those athletes were proven guilty right away and no really knew who they were, but someone like Barry Bonds has always been good. Another example is Lance Armstrong people targeted him, but he was always just damn good at what he does and some people hate him for that. Who knows whats going to happen but leave them alone and let them celebrate their careers.

[Allstar]

You can take roids to make you stronger, but you can't doubt the mans swing. He has such a good smooth technique suited for a power hitter like himself. I like the man very much as I'm with the statement "Innocent until proven guilty"

You give me rock hard solid proof that bonds did juice and i'll personally apologize to you.

[Boba.Fatt]

Good responses thus far

It is true that roids do NOT in any way improve natural talent. Barry Bonds has strong athletic genes and one hell of a beautiful swing. Those who have natural talent take it to superior levels thanks to roids. The stronger you are the harder you hit the ball. It's very simple. The fact that gets overlooked with the whole issue is that not only are these meatheads STRONGER but their ability to RECOVER from everyday wear and tear is far greater than the average joe. The human body is not designed to endure grueling physical activity and bounce back so quickly.

So in summation, roids do NOT give you talent. They merely strenghten it and heal you much quicker.

Look at the success Babe Ruth had with shooting up hot dogs and cigars. If only it were like the old days eh?

[Magnum Force]

I'm curious here: why does it seem that baseball is the main sport that people connect the use of steroids with? Hasn't other sports players been involvde with their use and been caught? But I mean, I've never heard of anyone in golf, basketball, or hockey to use them... are they just kept under-wraps?

Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but I've always ponderd about this.

[Negative Creep]

Originally Posted by Magnum Force

I'm curious here: why does it seem that baseball is the main sport that people connect the use of steroids with?

Because baseball is the last one of the major sports to start more stringent testing for steroids, as well as enforcing punishments for those athletes who fail such tests.

[dansdarkside]

How? How does steroids help you swing the bat that accurate? How does it make you swing faster????? I'm sorry but in Baseball steroids barely help. Maybe for the pitcher and his endurance, But other then that I do not see anything where it would help in a major way.

Just look at the picture from 10 years ago. Yes, he did bulk up, but give me 10 years to bulk up and I could be double the size he is now.

[-Irish.Kin-]

Originally Posted by dansdarkside

How? How does steroids help you swing the bat that accurate? How does it make you swing faster?????

Just to back that up, I'll just say look at Ken Griffey Jr. 588 career home runs and the only talk that you hear about Junior and steroids is how he most likely never used them.

I'm not saying Bonds never used any type of performance enhancers, nor am I saying he does. As stated before, there is no hard, solid evidence. But one thing I do hear several times if two people are talking about Bonds and the record is "He deserves to hold the record with a big fat asterick right next to his name."

Creating a petition to take Bonds' name off the career home run list just isn't right. If he did use performance enhancers, what about the home runs he hit while he was clean? Do those just magically get erased? If not, how can we say "Clean in that at bat, user in that at bat" and have a 100% completely accurate number.

The record will constantly be disputed until the next player (probably A Rod) comes close to Bonds' record.

[DeAtHaBiT]

To my knowledge Bonds didn't take steroids, just HGH.

[Sparkplug1990]

Originally Posted by dansdarkside

How? How does steroids help you swing the bat that accurate? How does it make you swing faster????? I'm sorry but in Baseball steroids barely help. Maybe for the pitcher and his endurance, But other then that I do not see anything where it would help in a major way.

Just look at the picture from 10 years ago. Yes, he did bulk up, but give me 10 years to bulk up and I could be double the size he is now.

The stronger your arms are, the more power you have to swing a bat. This, with the weight of the bat, gives the bat more momentum, thus when connected with a baseball at the precise point, the baseball will travel further, more so than a person with less strength in the arms.

The stronger your leg muscles are, the more you can propel yourself, in this instance with the pushoff for the steal. Even so, the stronger your legs are the faster you can run, with more push every stride.

The above is also useful when it comes to playing defense. Since I know Bonds has to play defense, because the Giants are a NL team, running faster is ideal in making great catches.

Leg strength is also great for making those home-run saving catches. The stronger your legs are, the more push you can get, thus propelling you higher into the air.

The added arm strength also will allow you to throw the ball from the outfield farther than what you normally can. Having a better chance to throw out a player.

Was that good enough for you???

The fact remains, I can't deny Bonds. His swing is damn near perfect, I cannot deny that. However, as I stated before, I strongly feel that Barry Bonds did indeed use performance enhancing drugs, and in turn is gave him the boost he needed to hit as many home runs as it did. IN addition, as it was mentioned above, these drugs will also allow you to heal from the everyday wear and tear.

Being an avid highschool baseball player, that being stronger is a great advantage in hitting and fielding. When I was a freshman, I wasn't as strong as I am today. Working in the off-season and enrolling in advance-conditioning classes, I became much stronger.

I more than doubled my homeruns and was able to have a better fielding percentage due to a better jump to dive for the linedrives and bounces that came my third base way. I was also able to make better throws from the outfield when I was needed to play out there.

[Scuba Steve]

Originally Posted by UnknownSubject

and enrolling in advance-conditioning classes

Sounds like a cult...