SOCOM update 03 JAN 07

[Sparkplug1990]

Originally Posted by EAsTon

Like soft spotting and ghillies suits.

Any gun in the game should not be a 1 hit kill either. The M87 and M82 should take your health all the way down to red level unless you're hit in the head. That way campers will give away their spot and if they hit you you won't be killed so you have a chance to counter them or tell your team where the camper is.

Then they wouldn't be considered a 50 cal sniper rifles would they?

I know some people hate sniping, and they hate camping. While I am not to big on the camping either, I don't care about sniping. If you get hit with a one shot kill sniper rifle, you grab one for the next round and pop a cap in that guy's ***.

[EAsTon]

Originally Posted by babygushue

heres a tip. constantly jump around. Zipper allows the characters in the game to jump at the height of a standing player for god sakes, its like flying.

dont stop moving around. Most likely you will stumble upon the camper and pop the dude in the back of the head.

I always jump. Sometimes I don't even realize I'm jumping because I do it too much, I just constantly hit square.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWSUBJECT

Then they wouldn't be considered a 50 cal sniper rifles would they?
I know some people hate sniping, and they hate camping. While I am not to big on the camping either, I don't care about sniping. If you get hit with a one shot kill sniper rifle, you grab one for the next round and pop a cap in that guy's ***.

Why wouldn't they? The DE. 50 is a 50 cal pistol and it dosen't kill people in one hit at close range so why should the snipers? I also rather snipe a guy with an assault rifle just to show him I can beat him with a headshot.

[OTTER]

Originally Posted by EAsTon

I always jump. Sometimes I don't even realize I'm jumping because I do it too much, I just constantly hit square.



Why wouldn't they? The DE. 50 is a 50 cal pistol and it dosen't kill people in one hit at close range so why should the snipers? I also rather snipe a guy with an assault rifle just to show him I can beat him with a headshot.

That's because Zipper is stupid and ****ed up the DE. In s2 the 50cals killed in 1 hit in chest and so did DE.

Baby, nice try and trying to flex your skills, but this isn't about somebody shooting somebody first, it's about terrible, noob-friendly guns that need fixing.

[.Charlie.]

Originally Posted by Olivaw

I must ask now......will "quick sniping" be considered an "offense" under the new system? (For anyone that says it is not an exploit, go pick up a rifle, any rifle and see if you can really do it.....)

Try instantaniously switching seats in your car.
Try jumping as high as your head, with a gun, and full camo gear on.
Try shooting someone once in the heart with any gun, see if they'll live.
Try sprinting non-stop for 10 minutes, with a gun, and full camo gear on.

I could go on and on, but it's just as useless as your point. This game isn't realistic, it's about having fun.

[madgza420]

Originally Posted by EAsTon

Like soft spotting and ghillies suits.

Any gun in the game should not be a 1 hit kill either. The M87 and M82 should take your health all the way down to red level unless you're hit in the head. That way campers will give away their spot and if they hit you you won't be killed so you have a chance to counter them or tell your team where the camper is.

Soft spotting is retarded but every game has them.Ghillie suits are hard to spot true,however really heavy and take up an equipment slot.Sniper rifles are good from far away but chances are youll get your *** kicked in a CQC situation.Theres always a trade-off.What advantage do you want?Its your choice,silencer,1shot kill with a .50 Cal?Its all relative.Easton Ive never played with you but it sounds like you like to run around too much and get mad when people kill your mad rushing kiester.Maybe take cover more often,I try to adapt the best I can to the map,or style of room I am in.

[.Charlie.]

Originally Posted by madgza420

Soft spotting is retarded but every game has them.Ghillie suits are hard to spot true,however really heavy and take up an equipment slot.Sniper rifles are good from far away but chances are youll get your *** kicked in a CQC situation.Theres always a trade-off.What advantage do you want?Its your choice,silencer,1shot kill with a .50 Cal?Its all relative.Easton Ive never played with you but it sounds like you like to run around too much and get mad when people kill your mad rushing kiester.Maybe take cover more often,I try to adapt the best I can to the map,or style of room I am in.

PUT A SPACE AFTER YOUR PERIODS AND COMMAS!!!

[EAsTon]

Originally Posted by madgza420

Soft spotting is retarded but every game has them.Ghillie suits are hard to spot true,however really heavy and take up an equipment slot.Sniper rifles are good from far away but chances are youll get your *** kicked in a CQC situation.Theres always a trade-off.What advantage do you want?Its your choice,silencer,1shot kill with a .50 Cal?Its all relative.Easton Ive never played with you but it sounds like you like to run around too much and get mad when people kill your mad rushing kiester.Maybe take cover more often,I try to adapt the best I can to the map,or style of room I am in.

I just want the game to return to its roots. A game where what you got is what you got. S1 and 2 where incredable games. People moved around, the maps were even, there was no custom gun set-ups, and sniping took more effort. BTW I really don't get mad at all. The only thing I ever say is "thats gay". I also don't just rush out like it seems I do. I keep moving through the map but I take my time so if I happen to die I don't have to wait 3 minutes for the round to end. It just gets annoying when a team has 4 guys alive aginst 1 on the other team and they don't even make an effort to go and look for the person. Instead they sit and camp for 3 minutes when the game could have been over in 20 seconds if they would have stayed in a group and searched for the last guy left. That's why I usally play big map respwans. When the games are filled their's action everywhere, their's two spawns so it's almost impossable to be spawned camped and no one cares how good you do. S3 and CA need a lot of work. They're still fun but in doesn't compare to the 1st two. I just hope Desert Glory isn't filled with campers when the map pack comes out.

[OTTER]

They're still fun but in doesn't compare to the 1st two. I just hope Desert Glory isn't filled with campers when the map pack comes out.

Ha, but the funny thing is all these s3 noobs won't know anything about dg. Remember how bad of a nadefest it was before? Well now you can RUN and throw nades at the same time. So once these nubs find out where to camp, all the s1/s2 people:

1) Already know the map extensively and where the good spots are
2) How to prevent people easily from going to those spots
3) How to easily nade them if they make it there

It'll be a slaughter of scrubs, it's gonna be great.

[.Freed.]

Yeah man **** those quicksnipers. What a bunch of ****ing idiots. I bet they cant use guns for **** man.
btw I mastered quicksniping in real life so I can do it on the game now.

[--RUCKUS--]

No matter what Zipper does.. no matter what changes they make to this game (or series), theres always gonna be a group of people who aren't going to be happy. If they return to their roots like Easton put it, then the tactical "alpha delta squadron" ghille suit SR using realists who think this digital depiction of a person is their own life are going to be just as disappointed as we are now. I think doing the subtle things will bring this game back to life.. like making sniping a lot harder... like completely taking away ghille suits.. and tweak the maps.

And as far as this piece of news from "DevGru Echo" or whoever... i'm with the people who think the excessive glitching/modding/code 9ing should be addressed first.. because even if they ban these rankups.. the ranking system doesn't work anyway and even if it does.. who cares? Am I the only one who wouldn't care about rank even if it did work?