Range Rant

[babygushue]

Originally Posted by Razzor7

It wasn't "fixed" or "broken" it was changed. GUNS HAVE INFINITE RANGE IN SCOPE. There. That is true. Addressing the other issue:

I have been sniped at before at such a range that I couldn't see the muzzle flash nor the red arrow/flash. This is no new occurance...

oh, I can see the muzzle flash and there is barely a red arrow/flash, however, it is WAY to easy now to use the m16. There is no more need for the m87 or m82.

[Razzor7]

Originally Posted by babygushue

oh, I can see the muzzle flash and there is barely a red arrow/flash, however, it is WAY to easy now to use the m16. There is no more need for the m87 or m82.

You're making a very big deal out of this lol... it's as simple as:

The M16 you have to get a headshot (difficult at those ranges).
The 50 cals, you can get a body shot and still kill.

[babygushue]

Originally Posted by Razzor7

This infinite range thing hardly changed ANYTHING! Nothing compared to the problems glitches cause.

people do the glitches, if you surround yourself with those type of people, then yes it is a problem otherwise there is no such thing as glitching.

Brokendown:

The M16 had a range of 120 meters. Now, the farthest you can see on KF/Harster is about 135m... BIG WHOOP! Infinite range is limited by the maps fog.

Harvester big map, demo Spawn 2: Instead of using the 50 cal to snipe seals at spawn 2, why not use the m16? Much easier, no recoil, silent from THAT far away and has infinate range for later use.

The STG/M4/etc. SD + medium scope USED to have a range of about 70 meters and now has infinite range... seems alot but consider:

THEY ONLY HAVE MEDIUM SCOPES! It's very difficult to land a headshot with a medium scope at 70 meters, let alone 120. If you only hit the body, a STG SD at 120 meters will take 10-15 shots to kill, and that's no exaggeration(sp?).

I agree.

[babygushue]

Originally Posted by Razzor7

You're making a very big deal out of this lol... it's as simple as:

The M16 you have to get a headshot (difficult at those ranges).
The 50 cals, you can get a body shot and still kill.

dude, think. Infinate range gives the player the ability to use the gun as if it were close up. Four bullets in the chest from the m16 from any distance from scope. Not hard at all, especially because the gun does not recoil. repeat, THink.

[Razzor7]

This is my last post, I'm going to bed after this.

Glitches are irrelevant. This is a post about the balance of gun ranges.

Why not use a M16 over a sniper sniping the windmill? I'll tell you why. Unless you are God, you aren't going to be able to pull off those kinds of headshots. It's that simple. Hell, I've out jumped .50 cals going to the windmill. NO WAY someone can consistantly get headshots with an M16 from the terrorist spawn 2 to the seal spawn 2. I'll stand by that until someone proves me wrong. I'm going to bed... good night.

To your above post.............

The M16 recoils in the highscope magnifications, yes even 6x.

[Focus]

There's a big difference between infinite range and increased range. Learn it. If you get killed by people using the M16 from a farther range so quick while you're using a sniper, then he's the better player..(see previous statements about having to get a headshot without a 1 shot kill rifle, compared to your 1 shot kill rifle. Plus if you were skilled at sniping, you would get most likely get headshots anyway)

And about the

Infinate range gives the player the ability to use the gun as if it were close up. Four bullets in the chest from the m16 from any distance from scope.

You're wrong. For you to kill them from that far off, you need a HEADSHOT. Sure, you can kill them without getting a headshot, but you'd have to shoot them atleast 10 times in the chest. One shot kill rifle > that. What's so hard for YOU to understand?

[FazeD]

a few thing pfft

lets see: working patches
workign ranking system
better guns
better servers

i could go on (i will come back tommorow and add more) but frankly, i am tired and am going to bed.

[babygushue]

Originally Posted by Razzor7

Glitches are irrelevant. This is a post about the balance of gun ranges.

I agree.

Unless you are God, you aren't going to be able to pull off those kinds of headshots. It's that simple.

Infinite range. 4 bullets will do from that far away. Not hard, especially since no recoil.

[babygushue]

Originally Posted by Focus

You're wrong. For you to kill them from that far off, you need a HEADSHOT. Sure, you can kill them without getting a headshot, but you'd have to shoot them atleast 10 times in the chest. One shot kill rifle > that. What's so hard for YOU to understand?

Clearly this whole thread is about someone being able to shoot another from far away with the same amount of bullets at close range. What you discribed was how it USE to be, now its like how im describing. What is so hard for YOU to understand?

[Focus]

Originally Posted by babygushue

Clearly this whole thread is about someone being able to shoot another from far away with the same amount of bullets at close range. What you discribed was how it USE to be, now its like how im describing. What is so hard for YOU to understand?

Okay? If you're using the same gun as him..kill him before he kills you? Get that headshot on him first? Shoot 4 shots (I'm pretty sure it's more than 4 shots..atleast for me it is) on him before he does to you? OR pull out a 1 shot kill rifle and take 2 shots at the most.