Opinions Required

mezuk04 · 06-13-2006

May I put the question forward ready for your comments.

Why do so many people feel they have the right to tell other online players (often referred to as the noobs) that they should not be playing with a certain gun, often the machine guns with 100+ rounds in a clip.

Further more, why shouldnt they be allowed to use whatever gun they want?

They have payed for the game, the console, the network adapter, the internet connection, so how does someone justify their opinion of telling people not to use certain guns?

GrAvYy · 06-13-2006

imo the airburst is way to accurate and powerful that it doesnt require skills to use and a GL is too accurate aswell and too powerful. zipper should make them require skills (make them less powerful and less accurate like on bf2 for pc).

some weapons get called noob guns coz they say they dont require skills to use :)

Pvt.Dirt · 06-13-2006

Well I say big deal, if you have "skill" you should still be able to beat the 100 round guns. I've beaten them many times, and you have to. If someone just gets the game, let them use what they want, he's right noone has any right to tell you what gun to use, tell you that your not good at that weapon and you need to find a better one.

OME6A · 06-13-2006

Well, since my opinion is required...

You're absolutely right about paying for your game and being able to use what you want. If one or two guys don't like it, then they can live and find a game where said weapon is disabled.

On the same token, if an entire team agrees and asks/tells you to stop using said weapon, you should oblige or expect to be voted or TK'd. It's just the rules of the road.

@GrAvYy
You said m203s/GLs should require more skill, I say they do take skill. In close quarters you have to be careful not to blow yourself up. At long ranges, it takes knowledge of the weapon's performance coupled with aim to score a kill.

NUN-PUNCHER · 06-13-2006

@GrAvYy
You said m203s/GLs should require more skill, I say they do take skill. In close quarters you have to be careful not to blow yourself up. At long ranges, it takes knowledge of the weapon's performance coupled with aim to score a kill.[/quote]

Agreed, I've seen alot of people kill themselves with the GL. I love when people try to use it on fault and antendra
I use alomost every gun on the game for the most part, and someone crying and making demands wont change matters the slightest.

DaKilla · 06-13-2006

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Originally Posted by NUN-PUNCHER

Agreed, I've seen alot of people kill themselves with the GL. I love when people try to use it on fault and antendra
I use alomost every gun on the game for the most part, and someone crying and making demands wont change matters the slightest.

The problem that's existed mainly since Socom 2 (I never really noticed much in the original Socom, as both teams had pretty equal main weapons in my opinion), is this:

People are generally bothered when someone using a gun that is easy to use starts getting cocky and talking about how great they are with said gun. I get upset, myself, when someone claims about being so great with a gun that I don't consider being difficult to use; if they remain cocky, I show them that I can use that gun just as easily and it takes the challenge out of the game.

If someone is completely honest about their ability and admits that the gun may be easy, but it's all they know how to use or can use, then I don't have any complaints. I may ask them to try a different gun and enjoy a little challenge, but that isn't the same as demanding a weapon change.

I think in most cases people just assume that everyone in the game knows what they're doing, but choose the "easy way out" just because they don't like a challenge or don't like to lose.

Either way, the only real complain is when people become overly confident in their skills when they don't actually know what they're doing.

Disclaimer: this is my personal opinion. It may or may not be true...

OME6A · 06-13-2006

Also, in defense of all noobs out there, we've all been one at one point or another.

When I first started playing Socom on II, I was horrible. I kept hitting my firerate or reload, until I discovered the hamburger maker, aka, M60E3.

I loved using that gun starting out because it made it easier for me, and helped me enjoy the game more. After a month or two I moved on to the HK5K, and the AK-105.

Rod Dickmaster · 06-13-2006

*huff huff huff*

Whew!!!

*huff huff huff*

I ran all the way here. I heard my opinion was required, so I just assumed it was an emergency.

Gimme a minute to catch my breath...

That's better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezuk04

May I put the question forward ready for your comments.

Why do so many people feel they have the right to tell other online players (often referred to as the noobs) that they should not be playing with a certain gun, often the machine guns with 100+ rounds in a clip.

Further more, why shouldnt they be allowed to use whatever gun they want?

They have payed for the game, the console, the network adapter, the internet connection, so how does someone justify their opinion of telling people not to use certain guns?

Simply put, people tell other players what weapons not to use because those weapons exploit the weaknesses in their playing styles. As M!ke said, if it has been agreed that a particular weapon will not be used in a game, then you should abide by that, otherwise, just use what you want.

In my clan, we don't use ranged explosives on small maps. If somebody uses one on a large map, then we change our style to meet the challenges of defeating it. The only noob involved when a gl or airburst is present, is the noob that gets killed TWICE by it, not the player using it. Once you know they have it, you have to change your style of play to beat it. This goes for quick-snipers too. Once you know they are doing it, you have to change your tactics to clobber 'em.

The biggest noobs in the game are ones that complain about the type of weapon they got killed by.

There you go. You have my opinion. Hope you feel better now.

Z3CH · 06-13-2006

It really doesn't matter. People will tell others what guns they should and shouldn't use because they don't want to be bothered by annoying guns... Big whoop! Nobody said you have to listen. It's not under the Sony disclaimer that you must listen to people that tell you what guns to pick... Enjoy yourself, don't worry about them.

fartofdeath · 06-13-2006

wow...there are guns that i dislike other people using because I myself bought the game, and the vast majority who also bought the game dislike guns like airbursts, 203s, and gls being used. In that it's too easy to kill with that gun. While i try to practice for my next gb squads, some dude has to go ahead and do the universal glitch and own me with a gl...thats just stupid. I have no problem with f90s and mks because even though i don't use them, they are a gun, not a grenade launcher. They can kill quickly, but i jus own the noobs who use those guns with better guns like the 552.

Stop being selfish and think that because you bought the game, you can play it however you want. Many others bought the game and want to have fun...

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dam you made me type a lot...