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Old 09-30-2005   #151


 
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Sorry what I meant is EVERYONE who knows weapons knows it!
and if uve read this site most people don't cuz they think you can put a silencer on a .50 cal and heres the reason you can't
the bullet travels so fast it makes its own sonic boom or whatever so the silencer might slow it down but not enough to stop the boom and any supersonic gun you can't but a silencer on it
The M4 is supersonic. so is the M16 Ak's M8 STG and the 552

And would you look at that, they can be suppressed.
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that would be neat if all weapons that could be silenced were but wouldn't want some maniac running around with a m82a1sd imangine how easy that person could get kills.




but still i would be nice to have in the game till it goes over board
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^^ not really. cause it would still be one shot. and you never actually silence the gun, you just suppress it. it would still most likley be execptionally loud, but not nearly as loud as a regular m82
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When you fire a weapon, it releases gases and a flash when the bullet exits the barrel, all a silencer does is let it go into a basic ext. of the barrel and lets the bullet fly free.. It also increases accuracy and slows down speed and sitance, though. Mostly ever weapon aside from shotguns can't be silenced. the DE which I have shot myself has a silencer built specifically for it, but it adds extra weight and can be a apin in the *** consdeirng a 50 caliber bullet coming out of a small weapon.
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When you fire a weapon, it releases gases and a flash when the bullet exits the barrel, all a silencer does is let it go into a basic ext. of the barrel and lets the bullet fly free.. It also increases accuracy and slows down speed and sitance, though. Mostly ever weapon aside from shotguns can't be silenced. the DE which I have shot myself has a silencer built specifically for it, but it adds extra weight and can be a apin in the <font color="#FF0000">*censored*</font> consdeirng a 50 caliber bullet coming out of a small weapon.
haha this guy has no idea what he is talking about. The silencer serves more than just reducing muzzle flash, it supresses the sound released as the bullet comes out hence the name SILENCER! AND a silencer does NOT increase accuracy! SILENCER DECREASE THE ACCURACY OF ANY GUN THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THIS IS A KNOWN FACT BUDDY! I should know as i am in the Marine Corps. so please don't argue with me on this one. When a bullet flies through a silencer it slows it down and because it is going slower than normal the accuracy is off. And by the way, there is such thing as a silenced shotgun, it can be done. All you need is some subsonic ammo (slugs). Stop giving out false information. Thank you.


Please refer to this link to see a suppressed (silenced) shotgun for yourself:

http://www.wapahani.com/supage3.html

it is the image at the bottom. Thank you. I do not want to hear anymore that a shotgun cannot be silenced.


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Updated with each guns' real designation, and a link to an image with tons of weapon information. Have fun!
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http://www.surefiresuppressors.com/s...ence_size.html

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Equally important to the shift issue was the matter of accuracy, which harkens back to a question asked at the beginning of this article: how does a suppressor affect accuracy? Improve it, worsen it or make no difference?

Assuming a properly designed suppressor like the M4FA, the answer is accuracy improves - groups tighten up, sometimes significantly, sometimes modestly. The reason is that a well-designed suppressor acts like the world's best muzzle crown, releasing the bullet with perfectly even pressure on the base of the bullet.

Competitive rifle shooters know how important the muzzle crown is for this very reason. The more stable the bullet leaves the barrel, the more stable it carries in flight. A suppressor enhances accuracy by taking away the turbulence of uneven gas pressure.

To answer the other question posed at the beginning of this article - what affect does a suppressor have on muzzle velocity? the answer is again a bit of a surprise.

A suppressor increases the bullet's velocity, by about 30 to 50 fps, because the extra length of the can behaves somewhat like additional barrel length. While the gas seal behind the bullet is not bore-size tight, the hole in the suppressor is only a few thousandths over bullet diameter, allowing a bit more opportunity for the propellant gases to accelerate the projectile.

By comparison, an extra 5" of rifled barrel might add 200 fps to 300 fps while 5" of can will only up the velocity about 30 to 50 fps. Still, any increase is an increase.

Speaking of length, the SureFire M4FA adds only 3.75" to the overall length of the weapon, compared to over 6" for the currently issued SOPMOD can. The bulbous length of the current issue can alters the weapon's point of balance and makes it unnecessarily unwieldy. Combined with the extra weight of the unit, the SOPMOD can adds up to a heavier, bulkier, longer can than the lightweight M4FA.

And so now the M4FA suppressor design was optimized. The point-of-impact shift was negligible, the affect on accuracy was beneficial and the terminal ballistics of the cartridge were actually improved. Only one final test remained, and it was brutal.

The common mis conception on silencers comes from its name. They are officaly Flash and Sound Suppressors. They're not made to make you silent, just invisible. Just read the link there are plenty of articles to read. Suppresors on assult rifle's are used to get rid of muzzle flash, and to controll recoil.

Now your a Marine, and Im assuming you did night training. Now imagine if you are being shot at, durring night time, and you can't see where your being shot from. And imagine your M16/4 with reduced recoil. Because we all know the M16 has some nasty recoil .

On a side note: Commader, nice job.
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in s3 how many mines will u be able to carry?
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I heard you are able to carry only 2 mines now.
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Thanks for the list c0mm, should clear up some arguments, but of course not all of them.
the only thing that is questionable in the list is the 12 guage pump, seeing that the 12 guage on that link is a semi-auto, not a pump. Then again it I'm coming from the impression of the pump in socom 2. Anyways thanks again.
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