What this Socom needs to reduce camping and other problems!

[Scuba Steve]

However, if the game had Socom 2 type maps, there would be no camping.

Although, vehicles could be considered the main root of all problems, as the large maps were made to accomodate them.

[oxfordfreestyl]

There still would've been camping, as alot of the hardcore camping was done in the small maps. So it wasn't the maps being too big, it was just poor design overall.

[OME6A]

Yeah, Killing Fields and Crucible smalls, holy hell. They were total camp-fests.

[.writer]

I say:

Make every map a square, throw in some boxes for cover, make your primary weapon a machete and secondary weapon a knife then BAM, no camping.

[-frosting-]

Originally Posted by EAsTon

You sir, are an idiot.

Just because you rush doesn't mean you use an F90 (people who use the F90 camp most of the time anyways) and rush out in the open like your stupid self assumes. When you rush (if you're not an idiot) you pick certain places to rush, and what angles you are going to take to get there.

If you ever played with S3, or some members on this site you would understand what rushing is instead of assuming what people do what they rush.

Easton my friend, give me some credit my man. I realize that there are so call "tactics" to running and gunning, and so called "tactics" to camping, sniping and so fourth, I was merely pointing out the fact that you don't need much "skill" at all to be able to get kills. My point with the F90 was anything or anyone who has never picked up a video game or watched TV in there entire lives, could get 10 kills a game running and gunning with that weapon.Obviously everyone who runs and guns does not use that gun.

I don't know, maybe it's just the fact that I've been playing Socom online since the first, and it's just getting easier, however I just don't see all of this so call "skill" involved in running and gunning, (and sniping for that matter), you guys give yourselfs to much credit.

[runmofo]

Socom as well as any other shooter will have campers. There is nothing in this world that anyone can do about it. Well I guess the only thing you could do is have a map that is one big open flat field. As for the cheaters I only see them under playstation games. I own a 360 and never ever seen anyone cheat. I seen alot of camping and such but that is part of the game. If playstation owners would pay to play online I bet you would see alot of cheaters getting banned.

[Irish Kin]

Originally Posted by runmofo

Socom as well as any other shooter will have campers. There is nothing in this world that anyone can do about it. Well I guess the only thing you could do is have a map that is one big open flat field. As for the cheaters I only see them under playstation games. I own a 360 and never ever seen anyone cheat. I seen alot of camping and such but that is part of the game. If playstation owners would pay to play online I bet you would see alot of cheaters getting banned.

I wouldn't pay to get rid of something I rarely see (and actually have never seen in COD4). I'm yet to encounter a cheater on any PS3 game I've played.

[EAsTon]

Originally Posted by -frosting-

Easton my friend, give me some credit my man. I realize that there are so call "tactics" to running and gunning, and so called "tactics" to camping, sniping and so fourth, I was merely pointing out the fact that you don't need much "skill" at all to be able to get kills. My point with the F90 was anything or anyone who has never picked up a video game or watched TV in there entire lives, could get 10 kills a game running and gunning with that weapon.Obviously everyone who runs and guns does not use that gun.

I don't know, maybe it's just the fact that I've been playing Socom online since the first, and it's just getting easier, however I just don't see all of this so call "skill" involved in running and gunning, (and sniping for that matter), you guys give yourselfs to much credit.

It may sound corny and nerdy but there is skill in rushing.

Originally Posted by runmofo

Socom as well as any other shooter will have campers. There is nothing in this world that anyone can do about it. Well I guess the only thing you could do is have a map that is one big open flat field. As for the cheaters I only see them under playstation games. I own a 360 and never ever seen anyone cheat. I seen alot of camping and such but that is part of the game. If playstation owners would pay to play online I bet you would see alot of cheaters getting banned.

Yes ever shooter will have campers, this has already been said in previous post. It's just that in S3 it's nearly ever round, every game. There was camping in S1 and S2, but not nearly enough to slow down the game and pretty much destroy the online community.

[OME6A]

It's becoming inevitable with every shooter that given enough time, people will find the easiest way to win.

The most powerful weapon setup, the most defendable points on a map, the chokepoints. It's all inevitable. For a lot of people it's all about self-preservation, and that's what they do to win.

That's why I look so eagerly forward to the release of a new game, because the whole thing starts over, and hardly anyone camps for a couple of weeks.

As a side note I had a lot of fun last night, letting all the pusstiges on COD4 know that after today their hard-camped for rank ain't gonna mean jackshit.

[-frosting-]

Yes the campers will ALWAYS be there, however like easton said, they were few and far beteen in S1 and S2 compared to S3 and CA. The reason is simple, the maps. People loved to snipe (camp) in S3 because the maps were huge, thus making it a lot easier to snipe (camp). Also the layout of the maps in S3 made it a lot easer, maps such as harvestor, storm front, killings fields, and so on were made for sniping.

Now what you did get in S2 and S1 is people camping with automatic weapons. That was def. somewhat of a problem. However the camping snipers were seen much.

The great maps in S2, Fishhook, crossroads, desert glory, are not by any means set up for sniping. Thats the difference, people will always snipe, however it's the maps themselves that will determine the overall number of snipers.

The more snipers the more campers. The maps need to be layed out for maybe more urban type warfare to get ride or at least control the camping.