Hillary or Obama ?

[OME6A]

Yeah, his started right around 10. It was like 30 minutes long. CNN.com will probably have it in full length tonight or tomorrow. They did that with his speech on race.

[OME6A]

For anyone that missed the speeches, here they are. Obama's is absolutely amazing, Clinton's is completely absurd, and McCain's is just, well, sad.

If this is the best he's going to be able to do, the debates will be like sending lollipop kids to battle vikings.

Barack Obama





Hillary Clinton




John McCain

[E. Writer]

He said thank you so many times I just wanted to punch him in the throat

[OME6A]

Yeah, trying to quiet down that crowd of over 20,000 people.

[E. Writer]

Is the Hilary speech at least worth watching? Because if not, throw that sht in the garbage

Edit-

Holy ****, the way he says a lot of his words, he sounds just like MLK.

[OME6A]

It's only worth seeing for how out of touch with the reality she is.

I added in the last two parts of Obama's.

[Jimdalf]

The amount of cheering and chanting involved... its all so undignified. And a big waste of time too. Its amazing how quickly Clinton got down to licking Obama's arse, and disconcerting how long it took him to achieve silence.

Obama is reasonably convincing when he gets down to business. I can't find many faults with his speech, apart from a few trifling things. When he named Roosevelt as a leader of the free world I burst out laughing. His ommission of Bush is natural but I still feel it is unreasonable to leave him out as a leader of the free world when you talk about Iraq a few seconds beforehand. His little stab at Chavez was quite stupid too coming so soon after a few remarks that reek strongly of the left wing.

I agree basically with his foreign policy, but it isn't actually any sort of change. If Bush could stop all the other threats he would, and he has been fighting Al Qeada far more aggressively than is public knowledge.

[E. Writer]

Originally Posted by Jimdalf

The amount of cheering and chanting involved... its all so undignified. And a big waste of time too. Its amazing how quickly Clinton got down to licking Obama's arse, and disconcerting how long it took him to achieve silence.

Obama is reasonably convincing when he gets down to business. I can't find many faults with his speech, apart from a few trifling things. When he named Roosevelt as a leader of the free world I burst out laughing. His ommission of Bush is natural but I still feel it is unreasonable to leave him out as a leader of the free world when you talk about Iraq a few seconds beforehand. His little stab at Chavez was quite stupid too coming so soon after a few remarks that reek strongly of the left wing.

I agree basically with his foreign policy, but it isn't actually any sort of change. If Bush could stop all the other threats he would, and he has been fighting Al Qeada far more aggressively than is public knowledge.

Jim, if you don't mind, can I ask; how do you know so much about American politics since you're from across the pond?

[Jimdalf]

I pay attention to American politics because its far more interesting than British politics due to the frequent elections. Everything that happens in US politics is reported in the UK, so its easy to keep an eye on things. But I don't really know much.

[OME6A]

I'm guessing Jim's a heavy reader of The Guardian, which I've found to paint an unbiased picture of our nation in its world news coverage.