Online Weapons Debate

[Biggie_MDK]

I understand what people are saying about how the guns arent noob, it is hard to explain. People keep saying you can counter anything with another gun.

A couple of examples:

for socom3 the rpg is understandable because of vehicles this statement is for socom 2. If I am sniping someone runnin across a bridge I need to be Very accurate to hit him. If I shoot an rpg at the same guy, ALL i need to do is shoot it somewhere near him and get the kill. It takes very little skill.

My second point is: you can counter any gun"", this is the problem. If I am using the ak-105 which i dominate with and the other guy is using the m14 let's say. If we are at the same skill level, he is gonna get the kill 8 out of 10 times because the m14 is overpowered. (remember same skill level). That is the definition of noob gun: even if you are better or even with your opponent their are certain guns that need little effort to get a kill.

I agree with people on the topic of the first week people will call guns NOOB. This will legitamitly happen months and months after release. There is going to be less complaining because it looks like the guns will be even on both sides. But I am tired of going 16 and 6 on a map with the m16 and losing becauses of 203's and IW's.

Most people that say there are no noob guns are people who 1)use them 2) are not experienced 3) lag a lot so they don't die anyway or 4) just plain don't care.

And someone said I was flaming in my last post. I read it and couldnt find anything, I merely told people not to flame because I respect what EVERYBODY has to say even if i don't agree with it. AND REMEMBER THIS IS VIDEO GAME CHAT, NOBODY SHOULD GET MAD AT POSTS, MERELY DEBATE EACH OTHERS POINTS.

[iCe CoLD 53]

Originally Posted by Biggie_MDK

I understand what people are saying about how the guns arent noob, it is hard to explain. People keep saying you can counter anything with another gun.

A couple of examples:

for socom3 the rpg is understandable because of vehicles this statement is for socom 2. If I am sniping someone runnin across a bridge I need to be Very accurate to hit him. If I shoot an rpg at the same guy, ALL i need to do is shoot it somewhere near him and get the kill. It takes very little skill.

My second point is: you can counter any gun"", this is the problem. If I am using the ak-105 which i dominate with and the other guy is using the m14 let's say. If we are at the same skill level, he is gonna get the kill 8 out of 10 times because the m14 is overpowered. (remember same skill level). That is the definition of noob gun: even if you are better or even with your opponent their are certain guns that need little effort to get a kill.

I agree with people on the topic of the first week people will call guns NOOB. This will legitamitly happen months and months after release. There is going to be less complaining because it looks like the guns will be even on both sides. But I am tired of going 16 and 6 on a map with the m16 and losing becauses of 203's and IW's.

Most people that say there are no noob guns are people who 1)use them 2) are not experienced 3) lag a lot so they don't die anyway or 4) just plain don't care.

And someone said I was flaming in my last post. I read it and couldnt find anything, I merely told people not to flame because I respect what EVERYBODY has to say even if i don't agree with it. AND REMEMBER THIS IS VIDEO GAME CHAT, NOBODY SHOULD GET MAD AT POSTS, MERELY DEBATE EACH OTHERS POINTS.

I totally with what you have to say. People can use what ever gun they want. But yes, less skilled players are more likely to use "cheap kill" guns. Killing someone with an iW does not make you better than them, if you use that gun and have a great score keep it to yourself, you most likely would not have that score if you used a weapon like an AK-105. I know this isnt the case for some people, but alot if people who use iW's use them cuz they couldnt produce the same results with a more challenging gun.

[FX]

Quit saying that the IW80 is newb...damn...that **** is so old....IW80 sucks compaired to M4A1...and nobody ever complains about that gun...

[iCe CoLD 53]

My point was not to bash the iW and i never called it a "newb" gun. If you read my earlier post you would see that i do not care what guns people use, they bought the game they can use any gun they want. My point was this, for the most part, the majority if people that i see using iW's are younger, less talented players and could not produce the same scores map after map with another weapon. Do i blame them for trying to win and have great scores, no NOT at all.

[FX]

my bad...I wasnt directing that coment to you...I was just voicing my opion to all those that call IW80 a newb gun....

[kensc]

Nay people dont use the Iw because they dont have as much skill as other people they use it because its the best seal gun . Like how in socom 1 people mostly used m4a1 and the ak's because you can easily get more kills than using another gun.I guess really the only way to fix this is to make all guns the same and that would be boring.

[sharfuhrer]

listen to us....arguing over socom.... think of the children...c'mon...do it for the kids....

[Biggie_MDK]

lol we're not arguing man, it's debating.
Can't we all just get along.

[sharfuhrer]

c'mon...I'm a kid...aren't I cute? Lets just do it for us kids... I mean look at their faces .... so cute.... and I can garauntee that all us kids have that lil face in us.... you guys just gotta bring it out...

[Spike]

Stop spamming.

If we only have one gun, that takes out HALF OF THE GAME right there. Whats the point in playing with only one gun?