Tired of being called a n00b no matter what gun

SOTGMarine · 06-27-2005

Nightstalker is completely winnable as is:

1. Does noone remember Nightstalker in the original SOCOM as being a "SEAL Map?" Something had to be done to balance out the camoflauge and map characteristics advantages the SEALs had. That was the M79 / AT-4. I think it balanced the map out perfectly.

2. Can a team learn to place perfectly-aimed M79 fire directly into the SEAL spawn? Yes they can, and they can make it extremly difficult for the SEALs, but it can be overcome. Can not the terrorists do the same thing to the SEAL spawn with grenades in Fish Hook? The SEALs can overcome and win, it just takes a little practice.

(Gee, maybe these slight map placement and terrain advantages have something to do with the slight (IW-80, Silenced SR-25) firepower advantages given to the SEALs... hmmm..the answer is YES, they DO. Some advantages were given to the Terrorists, and some were given to the SEALs, to make the game FUN and realistic)

As for the SEALs being given an M203 on "nearly half the maps" while the terrorists have nothing: This is called an "Escort Map."

During the beta testing for SOCOM II, the entire game type was questioned because the testers and the programmers were uncertain the SEALs would be able to protect three VIPs in an open area when all the terrorists had to do was kill them all.

Let me ask you this: How fair would it be if the terrorists had an M79 on an Escort map? It would be damn near impossible. The fact is, the designers of the game gave the SEALs the M203 grenade launcher on Escort maps to provide them the ability of keeping a "standoff distance" from the VIPs they are escorting and any danger. Terrorists who die from a 203 on an escort map deserve what's coming to them, as that's exactly what would happen to you if you attempted to just all-out assault a military formation or convoy in real life. Those are called "suicide" attacks for a reason - because you are going to die. The programmers intended the Terrorists to use their wits, their mines, and effective ambush techniques to take down the SEAL team and the VIPs, not mindless rushing with an M14. It wouldn't suprise me to see a little extra firepower for the SEAL team during Convoy games in SOCOM 3, like a TANK! Are you going to complain that the terrorists don't have a TANK? They don't have it because they aren't on a DAMN CONVOY!

What bothers me the most on this game is when people want to limit M203s and IW-80s, and then pick Terrorists on an Escort map for their choice - OF COURSE that side is an advantageous pick! You just took all the SEALs effective firepower away without giving up a thing! It's absurd to think THAT is fair.

What is possibly most entertaining, is how clans who limit weapons go about fighting on a map after taking the weapons out of the game.

If you said "Every member throwing 600 grenades at the start of the map," you are absolutely correct! And it causes FAR more lag and is more annoying than just playing the game how it was meant to be played.

That was probably one of the things I hated about the original SOCOM. All the damn grenade bombardment at the beginning of the round. No tactics at all, just "EVERYONE CHUCK NADES THATAWAY!" I think the game is far better with the M79/M203, because at least that weapon, for me, is easier to avoid, because it has a set trajectory that is easier to get under. Besides that, not EVERY member on the team is going to carry one, or else they would really get their butt handed to them.

RAMZAK · 06-27-2005

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Originally Posted by CooKiE:MonstER

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Originally Posted by RAMZAK

and that INCLUDES the M203, IW, M60.

stf^ you tard, no1 wants to get killed by a *censored* m203 noob. If I ever see anyone using it, I immediately kill them if friendly fire's on.

You guys who use the M203 are pathetic, and you suck so much at the game, you have to be a cheap *censored* tard. *censored* everyone who uses it, and *censored* you especially for being 'pro' for M203s.
I personally have no other problem with any gun, other than the M203, M79, MGL.

I'm probally going to get this topic locked, but theres 2 many of these pointless threads anyways.

Don't ever call me a NOOB, I have been playing this game since the week SOCOM 1 came out. I am no noob. You shouldn't make accusations of people if you don't know them.

RAMZAK · 06-27-2005

SOTGMarine, WAY TO GO!!

That is the best argument I have heard for 203's yet.

Finally someone has got my side.

EyesofTexas · 06-27-2005

What Marine said, end of argument.

VideoGameMaster · 06-27-2005

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Originally Posted by Chris Chávez

I actually find it easier to use a sniper rifle than any gun in the game. One shot kill with the M87 and M82, you see them before they see you, you can hide, etc.

I've never been called a noob while sniping.

i have...they call me a n00b for camping......i mean..i have a sniper...what do they expect..rushing full force?tho i did see a guy in bitter jungle rush and shotgun a bunch of seals and they called him a cheater for doing so....so..yah just cant win

EyesofTexas · 06-27-2005

Everyone expects you to run at their pace these days. You can't run your own game or your own way or the way you run the best... you have to do it their way. Just tell them to worry about the way that they play and not the way you play. I rarely rush these days unless I am in DG Seals in which I will rush the tunnel and the hostage room and then camp there before the terrorists do.

I tend to sit back in solid cover in which I can watch the only entrances into the area (EX: The dumpster on the SEAL Street) and I plant claymores in the left alley and the red room alley and wait. One or 2 kills a game that way and then I get harassed for doing what works when they are 2 and 10

Jinxter · 06-27-2005

Let's Start a Revolution!!!!!!! woot! we gotta get together sometime and play a game with NO weapon limitations! Haha now that I'm all excited I'm gonna log on, use a grenade launcher, and get voted off!

SOTGMarine · 06-27-2005

I believe there is an SOTG room up in Canada West 1.

Go there if you don't want to be voted off. We play with all weapons.

EyesofTexas · 06-27-2005

Yea, there are a lot of clans that sponsor all weps. SOTG, ASF, FSSF to name a few. These are all military based clans who support all weps.

SOTGMarine · 06-27-2005

Aha!

I knew it... is ASF the clan you were, or are, with that didn't like SOTG?

No wonder you have so much animosity for my clan and myself, Texas! Lol! ASF members aren't just "former" SOTG members... that's a clan almost ENTIRELY made of people we KICKED OUT because they are horribly immature, including their leaders, ASF Arson and ASF Striker, who we kicked out because they couldn't follow simple rules.

Recently, Striker was begging for re-admittance, but this will never be granted due to the 20-or so times I had to ban his IP address from our forums for acting like an 8 year old.

No wonder... all you must hear all day long is people bashing SOTG.

Before coming onto a forum of this size to bash a well-known and well respected clan like SOTG, I would ask around about people's opinion of your own clan.

ASF members have been reported as glitchers, cheaters and have members who harrass and hack the sites of people they don't like, as well as having their members join clans just to "spy" on them. They are one of the most hated and annoying clans out there, bro... kind of like TGN, but with less team-killing.

We allow some of their less annoying members play respectably in our rooms sometimes, as some can play without being bothersome, but they have a couple members that completely ruin the whole clan's credibility.