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Old 06-02-2007   #141


 
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Now, using the same logic for camping.
Zipper expected that when the map and round loaded, people would go out and run around the map and kill people. They didn't INTEND for people to spawn, hide in a bush, lay down down on the ground somewhere, corner camp some random wall, for the whole round. It's NOT a glitch, but they also didn't intend for people to camp the whole round.

It's not that hard of a concept to grasp, now is it?
Unless the programmers and developers at Zipper are complete and total morons, they knew it was going to be there. Heck, they had, um... THREE SOCOMs before this one, they knew what was going to happen!!!
It's a game play mechanic not dependant on any type of coding in the programming itself, short of the animations of lying down and holding ones weapon. QSing is a unintentional by-product of code that wasn't done properly, a fact that Zipper admits. So are soft-spots and many other programming errors, which at worst are known in the gaming community as glitches.
Once again, some of you are grasping now, which shows that you actually get the point some of us are making, but refuse to let go of the idea of QSing. Its dragging out a debate that was over long ago. Quit comparing apples to oranges.
So if Zipper does actually manage to get off their butts and patch QSing, will you guys admit its a glitch? Magic 8-Ball says, "Pfft, yeah right."
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Unless the programmers and developers at Zipper are complete and total morons, they knew it was going to be there. Heck, they had, um... THREE SOCOMs before this one, they knew what was going to happen!!!
It's a game play mechanic not dependant on any type of coding in the programming itself, short of the animations of lying down and holding ones weapon. QSing is a unintentional by-product of code that wasn't done properly, a fact that Zipper admits. So are soft-spots and many other programming errors, which at worst are known in the gaming community as glitches.
Once again, some of you are grasping now, which shows that you actually get the point some of us are making, but refuse to let go of the idea of QSing. Its dragging out a debate that was over long ago. Quit comparing apples to oranges.
So if Zipper does actually manage to get off their butts and patch QSing, will you guys admit its a glitch? Magic 8-Ball says, "Pfft, yeah right."
People didn't stay in the same spot for the 6 minute rounds in Socom 1 and 2. People stay in the same spot for 3 minutes, 4 minutes, or 5 minutes a round in Socom 3 and CA.

Me? I don't believe QSing is a glitch..for the simple fact I explained on the last page or page before that. If they patch it I wouldn't mind at all because 99% of the time I use an assault rifle..even on maps like Harvester, Storm Front, and Waterworks.
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People bash grammer and make personal remarks when they have a weak agurment in the first place. Ive finished college and Ive passed english If i were getting a grade for aguring with you on this i would care, but sinc
e this is more about the message than the words you get the point thats all that matters.

That being said, one of function of an infantry solider is to hold ground and another is to take ground. "camping" comes from another team holding ground while the other force trys to take it away, sounds like real life to me. If you think any special forces solider runs into the middle of a battle field and start shooting without regard for their own life you are sadly mistaken.

Further more I really have no problem killing or battling quick snipers. My rpoblem comes from when your trying to defend your side of it dont compare it to somthing its not. If you like doing it because its fun then do it. On the same note dont bash the way other people are playing because your being a hypocrit. Dont try and compare the entire game to real life because you want to do somthing that you know is not remotly realistic.
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Commander: Alright. Squad 1, you're going to move on the bomb. Squad 2, I want you to secure the plant. Squad 3, grab a vehicle and help Squad 1 raid the objective.

Squad leaders: *looking around at each other sheepishly* Excuse... *cough* uh, excuse me Sir?

Commander: Yes?

Squad leader 1: Is it OK if we sit in our base and hold each other's dicks?

Commander: ...

Commander: That should be OK, yes go ahead.



CAMPING IS NOT REMOTELY REALISTIC. Scout snipers? Sure thing they prone in bushes and snipe. I still think that's a ***** tactic but I don't complain about it (usually), and I agree it's realistic. When the whole damn team grabs the bomb and goes in the water on Anchorage, or camps on any demo map. THAT is when I get pissy.


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So if Zipper does actually manage to get off their butts and patch QSing, will you guys admit its a glitch? Magic 8-Ball says, "Pfft, yeah right."
No. They've patched other things before. They put green diamonds over peoples heads. Was it a glitch that there weren't green diamonds before?
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That being said, one of function of an infantry solider is to hold ground and another is to take ground. "camping" comes from another team holding ground while the other force trys to take it away, sounds like real life to me. If you think any special forces solider runs into the middle of a battle field and start shooting without regard for their own life you are sadly mistaken.
I never said a SEAL or special forces unit rushes into battle. If read my post you would have seen I said they SLOWLY move around their mission area. If they camp how in gods name would they complete their mission unless all of them had sniper rifles and were just on a observing mission? I know that they will not rush into battle because it's a REAL mission.

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My point, little boy, is to make sure your own prose is perfect before you proceed to bash a man on his.
Oh god! I fell so offended. I got called a little boy. You call someone a little boy when you call someone a Penis and think it's the "man" thing to do.
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People bash grammer and make personal remarks when they have a weak agurment in the first place. Ive finished college and Ive passed english If i were getting a grade for aguring with you on this i would care, but sinc
e this is more about the message than the words you get the point thats all that matters.

That being said, one of function of an infantry solider is to hold ground and another is to take ground. "camping" comes from another team holding ground while the other force trys to take it away, sounds like real life to me. If you think any special forces solider runs into the middle of a battle field and start shooting without regard for their own life you are sadly mistaken.

Further more I really have no problem killing or battling quick snipers. My rpoblem comes from when your trying to defend your side of it dont compare it to somthing its not. If you like doing it because its fun then do it. On the same note dont bash the way other people are playing because your being a hypocrit. Dont try and compare the entire game to real life because you want to do somthing that you know is not remotly realistic.
If you're able to speak and understand English fluently, then why can't the same be applied on the computer? You said yourself you passed English in college, did you write/type like you do now on your assignments and turn them in? After all, I'm sure some of those assignments have to deal with the message within.

I also know that people in the US Military "camp", just like you explained in the post I quoted. But the thing is...we're playing a video game! This isn't the real life, being in the Army, Navy, or the Navy SEALs. Just because that's how they do things in real life doesn't mean that you have to abide by those things in the video game. It's just like any other game - for example Tony Hawk's Pro Skater(or Tony Hawk's Underground). In real life pro skaters can only grind a rail/box/whatever, and trick into it or out of it, or both. In the game you can do massively long combo's, but does that mean we have to play like we were skating in real life? It's a game, and meant to be a game and that's it. If you want to play like you're actually out on the battlefield, like you're actually going to die when you die in the game, then so be it. But just realise that when you do this, you have many other people that get just as aggravated as you are having fun because it slows down the gameplay, severely.


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My point, little boy, is to make sure your own prose is perfect before you proceed to bash a man on his.
Honestly, how do you expect anyone on this forum to know that spoolboy is a grown man. Judging by his grammar and his name(it is spoolBOY after all), I think anyone on here would think he is young..only way to know would be to know him in real life or play with him on Socom.
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CAMPING IS NOT REMOTELY REALISTIC. Scout snipers? Sure thing they prone in bushes and snipe. I still think that's a ***** tactic but I don't complain about it (usually), and I agree it's realistic. When the whole damn team grabs the bomb and goes in the water on Anchorage, or camps on any demo map. THAT is when I get pissy.


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No. They've patched other things before. They put green diamonds over peoples heads. Was it a glitch that there weren't green diamonds before?
You are being intentionally dense to try and prove your point. Feel free, some of us can be intellectually honest about the point. Oh, and go tell a Marine that he's a coward for doing what he is trained to do. Let's see how far that gets you.
Honestly, you want to go do that, knock yourself out. I could care less, but that would involve investing energy that could otherwise be employed in more gainful purposes. I hope you wear a huge happy hat while you do it. Meanwhile, Mommy and Daddy need to discuss important things...don't worry, just cause we are fighting doesn't mean we love you any less.
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You are being intentionally dense to try and prove your point. Feel free, some of us can be intellectually honest about the point. Oh, and go tell a Marine that he's a coward for doing what he is trained to do. Let's see how far that gets you.
Honestly, you want to go do that, knock yourself out. I could care less, but that would involve investing energy that could otherwise be employed in more gainful purposes. I hope you wear a huge happy hat while you do it. Meanwhile, Mommy and Daddy need to discuss important things...don't worry, just cause we are fighting doesn't mean we love you any less.
Regarding the scout sniping thing, and you telling him to say it to a real Marine..well, he was talking about a scout sniper in the game. Since spoolboy uses real life tactics in game, like a sniper, scout sniper, someone to protect/cover him. Why would he get pissy over something somebody does in real life that has NO effect on him?
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Irish you're wrong...I don't think you could jump and zoom in whle in mid air on socom 1 or 2.
1) That makes no sense. This is pretty much what you said: "You are definitely wrong...but you could be right.

2) http://thes3clan.com/videos/%5bS3%5d%20s2%20RW.wmv
There's proof for Socom 2. I'm not entirely sure of exact point, but Otter jumps off the middle building on DG and snipes bob, while scoping in midair :O
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Ahhh stfu.

Terrible players get kills any which way. And simply because he WAS in ASQ does not mean he was a camper. He was one of the best shotgun-users I'd seen in the game, and was like a damned surgeon w/ a scalpel. Can you even make a point without sounding like an ***?
Did I touch a nerve? It was a joke because ASQ camped and was terrible, so it could be a fact also. Maybe evidence to prove a point? However you want to look at it, it's true. Sorry you're so sensative to a [worthless] clan you lead for so long thinking it was actually worthwhile.

And SPALL, I hope you've known your girlfriend for eight years, otherwise your opinion is immediately worthless. (As if it mattered to me in the first place, right?)

Nobody can argue against quicksniping, it's the same meaningless points that are complete ********. It's unrealistic, well, go out and do the real thing. Oherwise, don't complain about realism.

It's a glitch. No it's not morons. Case closed, I don't understand how so many people are so stubborn. If someone has anything logical to say about it, I'd love to hear it. Shame, I never will.....
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