ID #13~ Violence in our society!

[Cheesy]

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Who's to blame for the violence in our society? Violent movies, television programming, video games or parenting?



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Need six paragraphs on why wanting to totally Censor Violence in the Media due to the increased violence in Children is moronic because it's the Parent's Fault, not the Media.

Now, do it. It's I need 6-7 pages or so about this topic. Need it by tomorrow.

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[Boba.Fatt]

Violence amongst kids is IMO 50% genetic and 50% environmental. If a child grows up in a poor upbringing and is exposed to violence through any form, the odds of that child becoming violent are huge. But that doesn't mean you can place blame on any one source.

To fight that it is the parents fault, based on my opinion, would be fair. The parents provide the DNA for the child while at the same time determine their environment. However, it is also possible that a well bred child in a serene upbringing can turn into a mass murderer.

I believe that a persons fate is predetermined before birth and any negative environmental exposure will only speed up the eventually mental breakdown.

I'd type more but I gotta poop.

Sorry

[Kowboy]

Originally Posted by Cheesy

Need six paragraphs on why wanting to totally Censor Violence in the Media due to the increased violence in Children is moronic because it's the Parent's Fault, not the Media.

Now, do it. It's I need 6-7 pages or so about this topic. Need it by tomorrow.

Help

Violence in Media is the cause of increased violence in Children today, I think not. Yes, there has been an increase in violence amongst our children and adolescents in the past decade but why is the media to blame? Why couldn't we blame the parents of these young adults for their actions, and not the media? It's more so the parent's fault than it is TV and video games, censoring the violence won't have any effect what so ever.

First, there's a lack of discipline in today's society. Parent's don't discipline their kids at all, kids can run around doing what they want, when they want, and partly because you can't spank them anymore. Grounding a kid does nothing these days, there's no point, the kid has school for 6-7 or more hours a day, grounding him the 4-5 hours they're home before they go back to sleep for school is pointless.

Censoring violence in the media is outrageous, is there that much? I mean honestly, what can we see or hear on TV, that our kids haven't already seen at school, or heard about from their friends at one point or another? Murders and fights occur at our schools in this day and age more frequently than any of us could imagine.

Also, let's not forget about kids who have terrible parent's, that may be alcoholics, or suffer from psychotic illnesses, and may beat their children in a moment of loss of self control? Who do we blame for this? Jerry Springer and Mortal Kombat aren't to blame for this. A kid's upbringing has more to do with the way they turn out than anything else imaginable. The way is kid is raised, and the morals a parent bestows upon their children, are for one sole reason; the child's future.

Sure, we can try to blame video games for the way kids act out toward their peers at school in fights, but a kid acting like a character they are playing as on a video game, only goes to show that they have no respect what so ever, and where does this fall back on? The parents.

What about abuse? Kid's see their brothers and sisters being abused everyday, imagine how a 5-10 year old takes that, they see their own father or mother figure abusing their brother or sister, they come to terms with theirself that abuse is okay. Families that have abusive parent's, or parent's who suffer from alcoholism, drug problems, or any illness that makes self control an issue, can be blame for increased violence far before the Media can.

So why blame the media for the way our kids act today? Why do that, when you can clearly see in the reasons I've stated here, that a parent is more so to blame than any part of our media.



i tried, i dont think it turned out bad seeing that im a total dumbass

[Negative Creep]

Originally Posted by Cheesy

Need six paragraphs on why wanting to totally Censor Violence in the Media due to the increased violence in Children is moronic because it's the Parent's Fault, not the Media.

Now, do it. It's I need 6-7 pages or so about this topic. Need it by tomorrow.

Help

Infants need to be raised intelligently immediately from birth because they really are "sponges", in a sense. They need to know what is real and what is fake from the moment they seem able to comprehend what you say to them. Children are a direct reflection of who parented them, and when psycho (for lack of a better term) kids are running around doing things on their own, multiplied by the fact that there was little to no adult supervision for them; I think it is more than likely that the gene pool must have been a bit shallow with kids like that.

It's a sad, cold fact... moment of silence for these children...

Thank you very much!

Parents that allow their kids to run amuck are usually ones that are too wrapped up in other things to really give a damn. They're not often around their kids enough to show them any real values. Television, movies, video games, board games, RPGs, etc. etc. are their "virtual" babysitters. Some of these psycho children see a much blurrier line between what is right and what is wrong, and they get all out of whack with their imaginations. This is where the trouble begins. I've often heard that it's a bad sign when kids begin to overly abuse animals...

Originally Posted by Spike

We're all a family here, but now we're disowning you for that comment.

This made me totally laugh. Good times...

[Cheesy]

Thanks guys. Although it's not 6-7 pages, it can give me 1 1/2. While we're on this topic, might as well consider it the new ID.

[Jimdalf]

Perhaps you should dedicate a few paragraphs to the heritage passed on in Military families... you can't say a boy isn't changed when he learns of his father and family friends getting shot at... and no matter what angle you throw at it, the military's main export is violence

[c0mmand3r]

This will be short and sweet as I feel extremely ill right now.

From personal experience I can say violence in our society is entirely based on the child's upbringing, and not video game or movie related. People say it is a phycological inbalance or they are born with the genetic DNA with violent tendencies. I believe it is all horse ****. Don't get me wrong. I do not deny people are born with genetic patterns already set in stone. That doesn't mean they need to follow those patterns. Think of this. If alcoholism runs in your DNA, you are an alcoholic by nature. However, if you don't drink you don't become dependant. It is the same situation.

If a child is brought up around violence, and this is not necessarily leaning towards video games, movies, or television, that child is bound to be somewhat violent himself. On the topic, I believe parenting is what keeps children in line or launches them over the threshold. This is all interconnected so I will just go into this discussion aswell. I HATE people who try to ban video games based on their contents. Video games such as the Grand Theft Auto series. Now, granted that series is extremely vile and disgusting (IT'S AWESOME) and it can be percieved as bringing violence into the home, it is not the root cause of the violence in the home. The parent allowing or buying the game for their child is what brings the violence home.

This is the part of the discussion where I go into parental skills. Your child cannot buy this game alone. 90% of the time the store is not within walking distance. 99% of the time any store will not sell a mature game to your child. This is not the case with older teens such as 14-16 (whom are just below the mature rating yet look older in some cases). The parent, not knowing or caring what the game is, buys the game and then forgets about it. Now, a week later that same parent walks by her child playing the game and sees him running over hookers and killing mobsters. Her first thoughts are somewhere along the lines of, "Oh my god look what those video games people have brought into my house!" This is wrong because the sentence doesn't contain the words "I" "moron" "careless parent" "wh0re" "ignorance".

So, in conclusion. If the parent does their job (and I don't care which one) but if one of them does their job their child will turn into a avid member of our society versus a serial murderer. Video games are violent. This is why we have mature ratings. Music is violent, which is why we have the FCC. Human nature is violent which is why we have laws and police departments. Our society today does everything it can to protect children from seeing things they are not ready for. However, we cannot prevent you from buying a game for your child. There is only so much we can do. Parents need to do the rest. And for parents who argue against video games, I guarantee they made the mistake of not taking the time to look at the back of the game which states clearly the words "M" "Mature" "17+" "Not for young children" as I look at my GTA game as we speak.

So, the cause of violence and vice in our society? Crappy parenting.

[Sparkplug1990]

My belief is it's a combination of all.

Depending on where you live, can make a big impact on a childs life. If murders are happening every couple of weeks, that can really hurt a childs mental state. They can grow up thinking that killing is a cool thing to do. Or, they might think that killing is a part of life, weather it be cool or not. Even if the parents aren't the wealthest of the bunch, you can afford to get out of the slums.

Parents dont monitor the games that their children play. I'm 15, my parents know what content of SOCOM III is, as well as the Grand Theft Auto. My parents strongly believe that I am mature enough to play these games. Without taking the fiction into reality.


MOVIES... How many people hasn't seen a horror movie. How many kids have not seen a horror movie? Movies like Hostile, the violance in the movie is nuts, and I know a couple of 5 years olds that have seen the movie, and their parents plan on renting the movie when it comes out. Parents should not allow children to see these movies.

THe media, decides to show all the murders on TV. Some children like to watch the news, I am one of them. The graphics that they show can sometimes be disturbing. Like when they broadcasted the Kobe Bryant trial, little kids seeing a star on TV being accused for rape? Is it just me or, would a little kid that thinks Kobe is the world, want to do just what he does?

In conclusion, I think violance is the fault of everything. The Media, Video Games, parents and if the job is done to prevent all these things. The next generation will be great members of this world. Therefore, Peace, might just be inbound, on this world. That is, if only, the above is corrected!

Not to shabby for a 15 year-old eh?

[Dynastar197]

Outside media is only a small percentage of what is taken. It CANNOT influence or persuade ideas that were already within the individual. Outside media cannot "conjure up" actions or ideas off of a clean slate. They cannot resemble any type of emotional trigger or be related to the outcome of ANY psychological action.

People who believe that they do, need to be shot (in the face). You cannot start something psychologically that wasn't already there in the first place. I feel strongly about this. Whatever problem that was already there is a cause of something else, whether that be from physical deficiencies, lack of parenting, or any other concrete "outside" source.

I get so sick and tired of seeing, time after time, people who are blaming outside media, mainly video games, for the cause of horrific incidents. Kids shooting, raping, stabbing, burning, etc... just brutal stuff, and the video games are being blamed for it? Are you ****ing kidding me?!!! What is wrong with society when a simple video game is the cause of murder? I realize the entirety of our population consists of incompetent fools, but give me a break, that is just completely ridiculous.

Written by an adolescent viewer of Rated R movies, gruesome video games, and violent music. If your kid does something stupid, then you and your kid are ****ing idiots. Try being a parent.

[union-jack]

food for thought,,
i believe food has a contributary factor in this, im in my 30s and when i was a youngster food wasnt loaded with e numbers, colourants, and the various other preservatives and chemicals you get in these modern times,
over the years as food has become more `convenience` i can reflect and have noticed changes in behaviours, mainly in the youngsters, as the years have progressed, society has crumbled.
kids nowa-days live on eating 5h1t, and all the associated chemicals pumped into it, i have kids of my own, give them a packet of smarties (chocolate discs covered in a coloured crispy shell) and u may as well of given them crack cocaine, it sends kids loopy. this is just one example, the list goes on and on.