North American Ethnocentrism

xa · 02-11-2005

*begins imitating retarded backwards logic*
And if the companies have to pay the illegal immigrants the same amount of money then obviously communism would win and the robots will take over!
*ends imitating retarded backwards logic*

They don't bribe the officials, the officials can't do anything. There isn't enough manpower to watch the borders, nowhere near enough. That's exactly my point, remove the incentive of the companies to hire them. Don't whine about them 'taking the jobs', they aren't lazy like you are. They would work 10x harder for 10x less than you, if you can't keep up I fail to see how it is their fault.
And yes I am back.

SuperYooper · 02-11-2005

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Originally Posted by xa

*begins imitating retarded backwards logic*
And if the companies have to pay the illegal immigrants the same amount of money then obviously communism would win and the robots will take over!
*ends imitating retarded backwards logic*

They don't bribe the officials, the officials can't do anything. There isn't enough manpower to watch the borders, nowhere near enough. That's exactly my point, remove the incentive of the companies to hire them. Don't whine about them 'taking the jobs', they aren't lazy like you are. They would work 10x harder for 10x less than you, if you can't keep up I fail to see how it is their fault.
And yes I am back.

Why not use the National guard? We have the manpower, its just the beuracracy (sp) that makes this all so difficult. The border patrol is way under funded, and lacking manpower. Ill bet there are alot of National Guard units along the Mexican border. And Ill bet alot of them are pretty inactive.
I just dont see any other way to stop the incoming traffic of illegals. I think we should definatly go after the companies that are allowing these people to work. If we dont hire them, why come? But the logistics are incredible. Way too many corrupt companies.

xa · 02-11-2005

Exactly, hack at the roots my friend hack at the roots.

Mael · 02-12-2005

You just don't get it, xa. I DON'T WANT THEM MAKING ANY MONEY. THEY DON'T BELONG HERE. If they want to come here, let them, but do it LEGALLY and by OUR LAWS. I am not lazy! I can apply and interview for a job all I want, but if its NOT AVAILABLE I can't work, now can I? Ofcourse they work harder at their "jobs", THEY MAKE $2 AN HOUR!!. I or anybody else can easily live off of the minimum wage, but $2 an hour!? You have to work 3x as fast just to make $6 something an hour.

Do you even know what kind of jobs they do? They work at gas stations, building companies, roofers, even construction. You know how much a normal person makes at these jobs? I sure do, I used to work at them. An average construction builder makes anywhere between $8 to 20 an hour! If you give it all to these illegal immagrants who make less than minimum wage that leaves thousands of jobs I or anyone could EASILY live off of to someone who ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY!. This is the FACTS to why we don't have enough jobs for us CITIZENS.

They are criminals because they BREAK THE LAW by moving here illegally. Most of them are criminals even back where they came from. Would you want a criminal walking free on our streets? Would you want a convicted child molester move near a school just because some big organization feels sorry for them? I sure don't, and so do you (unless you are one of these people.)

By bribing officials I meant the people who control our borders, the judges and the border patrol. You want to see corrupted judges who defend these people in action, look at Califorina. They are issueing driver liscences to illegal immagrants! A drivers liscence is issued to CITIZENS of the state, NOT ILLEGAL IMMAGRANTS.

Getting rid of these companies ISN"T the answer. The answer is firing and or fining the people like managers who hire these illegal immagrants. The answer is to get rid of these people not the company itself. You work from the inside and work your way to the top of the corporate ladder and weed them out. You don't get rid of McDonalds all together because some manager hires an illegal immagrant. Or even a chains of gas stations like Shell or Texaco. That is way too far-fetched to even consider. If you get rid of these companies then whats the point of getting rid of the illegal immagrants so I or anyone can have a job?

xa · 02-12-2005

They shouldn't have licenses. Wheres the spirit of competition? Wouldn't you buy the best food if it was the cheapest? Thats how the companies see it, and thats what they'll continue to do. Generally they get the jobs they get because they have little or no education. A high school deploma should get you much better jobs. He needs a job. In whatever country he's from he probably has a family who is poor, without him they'd starve. The blood would be on your hands if they do and die because he got kicked out. There is no lack of jobs, the economy has just been raped in every single possible way by the war. I say make the companies pay them more than they pay us, and let the immigrants stay. But the immigrants are only entitled to the rights provided by the constitution and a job, nothing else. They shouldn't be allowed welfare only citizens should. I say take the child molesters and detonate C4 in their stomachs that'll teach em. Hell, you shouldn't be where you are. Your land was probably mexican land, and your telling them to leave? They should kick your *** out to mississippi(which from what I hear is much nicer than texas anyway). All I hear is you repeating that they don't belong on land which you stole from them, so please stop talking to me.

Mael · 02-12-2005

I hate Texas!! Don't confuse me with those retarded rednecks who have less education than an ape. Just because I live here doesn't mean I'm one of your stereo-typical redneck f*cks.

It has nothing what-so-ever to do with competition, it has to do with BREAKING THE LAW. I or anyone else is not responsible for anyones death because of someone elses actions. Their blood on my hands, HA! I am not responsible for what happened back then! I am not 200 years old. This isn't the freaking Civil War era. Thats like saying my great great great grandfather killed someone and I have to go to the gas chamber because of what he did. Thats just as bad as these black organizations who think I should pay them money for what happened 100 years ago. I did nothing to them just as I did nothing to these illegal immagrants who have relatives dying in an other country I am not even a citizen much less not even born from.

Your just like these gay activist who think everyone should except them the sick way they are. Or those PETA pricks who think I should die rather than eat meat. You'd rather over-look what is RIGHT and WRONG than what is right. I NEED that job some illegal immagrant has just as much as he needs a job. I have my own family who are broke. I have no money for gas or food or even new clothes, but I'm sure as hell not going to f*ck some else over to get it. I barely get by as it is, myself. But I am going to find a job LEGALLY to get those things. It will be tough but I will survive. So don't give me that "let everyone walk over me" crap. I am in just as much need as they are. I know all about being broke.

Go Pre · 02-13-2005

It seems to be (I could be wrong after all) that this thread is getting a tad out of hand, what with the random ignorant statements and all. I myself agree with Mael. I do not want them making any of our money. More then half of the money they make off of us is sent back to their home lands to their families, further depleting our nations economy (I dont care how slow of a process that is, the fact is, it is happening). I know for a fact that they are nice people. I live on Long Island, and most of the people on our island would consider this the mecca of illegal immigrants. They are all friendly people and I have no problem offering them something to drink on a hot day or saying hello to them as I pass by. They do not deserve our negative looks and attitudes, but what they do deserve are our taxes, our medical benefits, et al.

Mael · 02-14-2005

I disagree Pre. They DON'T deserve our taxes, health benefits,etc. We pay taxes so we can benefit from them, not for people who don't pay taxes. Any health benefits we get from our jobs WE pay for. They take it out of OUR paychecks. The only thing THEY deserve is being kicked out of our country. I know that may sound "negative" to you, but its the truth. We have laws and as a US Citizen we must abide by them. They, for obvious reasons, don't abide by them. They are CRIMINALS. They BREAK THE LAW to live here. That is what a CRIMINAL is, THERE IS NO CHANGING IT. No matter how much of a sob story they comeup with or have, they are BREAKING THE LAW. How many times must I say it!? You CANNOT change who and what they are (Criminals).