Radio's view on people

[xa]

breath of life, good point and well made!

[RadioactiveMan]

Originally Posted by breath of life

radio wrote:

Radio let me start off by saying i think you are right, people are retarded.
But i think this grand idea of yours to have everyone smart is just a horrible thing waiting to happen. I say this in all honesty because you must look at the nature of a human being; a human has two basic parts, a good side that tends to help out humanity whenever it possibly can, and a "evil" side.

I believe it is this "evil" side that has caused the chaos we now call life. As you look back through history you will notice that the only people worth taking notice of, are the ones that caused much pain and the ones that brought peace and benifited all life.

But i believe the biggest flaw in you scheme is the making every on smart. You must take this into consideration, there will ALWAYS be at least one person out the wanting to dominate over others, and if everybody is smart, then just amigine what that would entail. You must look at the presant to see the futre, in all of the past wars not every person on the battlefeild was a genius, if they were it would cause mass devestation. Just amigine a world full of rocket scientists and engineers, the nuke in a world like that would look like a slap on the back of your hand.

I finish my lecture by saying; If the world did not have "retards" then we would all be in more trouble than we can ever even fathom.

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Hm. I didn't necessarily mean that I wanted to erradicate stupididy- just lack of common sense and basic compassion. But you're right. Having only smart people would be worse than only having stupid people, but having everyone good, and not evil. Good point, though. That post kind of reminds me of how the Nazis had the world's most brilliant scientists working on doomsday devices. The Americans (largely with the help of German scientists who fled the Nazis as well as many people from other countries) built the nuclear bomb first. This is certainly better than if the Nazis built one first, but such a weapon does no good in anyone's hands. Millions of people died because of the American attacks on Japan. And that is what a good nation did, never mind an evil one (when I say nation, I refer to the government- the entity that controls the countrymen's actions) Unfortunately, we'd all be BSing ourselves if we thought that we could stop even more powerful weapons being developed.

Consider this everyone,

We (referring to the world) are facing a gigantic overpopulation problem. Which raises my point, why are we trying to preserve lives if our own planet can't support us?

I suppose that this topic has drifted towards some morbid topics... No problem- as long as we've got some intelligent conversation going, I'm happy. Although a smaller population would be a good thing, there will never be a reason not to preserve life. We will need to protect our planet for as long as possible until it becomes possible to inhabit others.

wow did any of you read radio's first posst? he said he wanted this to have proper grammer,lang, and only smart things to be said.....now we are getting wayyyyyyyyyy off topic and people are being stupid again....but i guess you could look at all of this as if it is living proof, people are stupid even when they are TRYING to be smart

I've been happy with this thread so far. We had some excellent contributions so far, especially at the beginning. Unfortunately, there have been some not so useful posts. This was, of course, expected. I hope that we can get past that.

About people being stupid even when trying to be smart. A thread like this is a rarity in these forums. I suppose that now many people are used to it. Like Boba said, this thread probably wont last.

[xa]

Originally Posted by RadioactiveMan

Hm. I didn't necessarily mean that I wanted to erradicate stupididy- just lack of common sense and basic compassion. But you're right. Having only smart people would be worse than only having stupid people, but having everyone good, and not evil. Good point, though. That post kind of reminds me of how the Nazis had the world's most brilliant scientists working on doomsday devices. The Americans (largely with the help of German scientists who fled the Nazis as well as many people from other countries) built the nuclear bomb first. This is certainly better than if the Nazis built one first, but such a weapon does no good in anyone's hands. Millions of people died because of the American attacks on Japan. And that is what a good nation did, never mind an evil one (when I say nation, I refer to the government- the entity that controls the countrymen's actions) Unfortunately, we'd all be BSing ourselves if we thought that we could stop even more powerful weapons being developed.

Actually only about 500 000 at most died in atomic bomb strikes in japan(not that it diminishes the horror and hatred behind it(although technically they only dropped it because a lack of communication in the govn't)). That's what I said, that we cannot control ourselves when we have so much power. The scientists in germany were brilliant, but stupid. Like we were here, we just never actually began the mass genocide.

I suppose that this topic has drifted towards some morbid topics... No problem- as long as we've got some intelligent conversation going, I'm happy. Although a smaller population would be a good thing, there will never be a reason not to preserve life. We will need to protect our planet for as long as possible until it becomes possible to inhabit others.

Ummm, well A. We can't do sh!t to this planet. It's been here ~4.5 000 000 000 years, and survived things that would EASILY blow the hell out of us. B. The real objective of life is to continue life. Like Agent Smith said "Humans are a disease" we just won't leave Earth yet. We are like the planets cold, no matter what happens we won't go away. Unfortunately like ebola, we will cause much death in the host until we die out, and the host will likely die too fast(again like ebola) to transmit us to another host. We have 1950 DA coming in 800 years, a supervolcano in yellowstone(thats overdue for eruption), and overpopulation all looming over us. We have very little chance of surviving this unless we leave the planet. I really doubt that we will survive because of the retards, the laziness, and the constant aggression.
EDIT: RAWRR brought this to attention http://www.socom-2.com/phpBB2/viewto...?p=91290#91290 Perfect examples.

[Mael]

Overpopulation is overrated. There are millions of deaths each year,there are thousands upon thousands of abortions a month, there are even some countries that limit only 1 boy per family(they kill the rest). So no overpopulation isn't a threat at all.

The whole supervolcano is far-fetched too. Who's to say it won't "blow up" within that 800 years.

I don't feel not one bit of sympathy for the Japanese for the atomic bomb. They attacked Pearl Harbor so by my account it was neccesary to get involved. They were not negotiating at all to stop the war so we had to send them a message not to f' with us.

[xa]

A. The nuking was unnesecary, we killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, not soldiers. Nuking Hiroshima&Nagasaki is like nuking New York for the war. Did the people themselves do it? No, and it's wrong. It's the same.
B. Overpopulation is a threat to the poor. Already we cannot create enough food for everyone(because of greed and overfeeding in the rich)
C. Yes, the supervolcano is a bit random. We can't really predict when but we do know it will occur soon because of the rate yellowstone is expanding.

[Mael]

In every war there is civilian casualties, however the whole country(civies and militants) was against us. It was nearly 50,000 people not 100,000plus and they weren't ALL civilians.

Tell me how rich people are responsible for poor people. They are responsible for our jobs but have nothing to do with feeding people. Its a shame some poor people can't afford to buy enough food but we DO have an exchange rate here in America and we have to abide by it. These "poor" people are people with a salary of $50,000 or less according to the government. Shyt give me $50 grand a year and I'd be friggin thrilled.

[SuperYooper]

I hardly think that the "over feeding" of the rich is why some people starve. The problem isnt completly the fault of our government wasting money. The real problem lies with the sponges of society. All the families that spend a lifetime trying to figure out how get more $$$ from the government. Im sorry, but if you have 5 kids that you cant afford to feed, then it is time to stop having babies. I have no pity for anyone that brings it on themselves, wheather its through thier own lazyness, or promiscuity, or whatever. If you are physically able to work, you should have to work. Not sit back and hope "John and Jane Doe taxpayers" will take up the slack by supplying you with food, rent, heating assistance, toys for Christmas....etc.... This is where I have a real problem with our welfare system. I think we, as taxpayers, should report every abuse of the system we see. If you know your neighbor is collecting disabilty income, and you see him go water sking, it should be reported. We allow people to slide, and this is what we get. The welfare system is great, on paper.

I am not near wealthy.....as a matter of fact im poor. But I dont recieve any form of welfare. I work hard for the little $$ that I get. I would love to have a few things that I cant afford, but I refuse to take from someone else.

If we, as a society, were held responsible for our own actions, we would be a better people.

[xa]

Umm it was definitely above 100 000. http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/MED/med_chp10.shtml
That has what we can estimate today. Just because they hated us(the civs) does that make it ok to nuke civilians? What if we were to round up all the war supporters and nuke them with a 14 kiloton nuke? Is that ok?

I never said it was there responsibility. I think that we should actually try and help each other out. The friggin apathy is what gets me. "Oh yes they are starving, but it's not my responsibility to try and help them, even though I could and generally have a moral obligation to help them". Believe me, in America no one needs to starve. People with money are so goddamn lazy. But in other parts of the world, for instance in Iraq you could buy a new RPG launcher(not sure if it is with the RPG) for about $225. You can't even buy a decent pistol for that much money here. For 50 grand a year that's great. But here because of all the taxes(expecially in chicago, highest sales tax in america). Really, it's not nesecarily your obligation to help but hey. Remaining neutral is not practical, because in opressive events, who appreciates your neutrality?

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by SuperYooper

I hardly think that the "over feeding" of the rich is why some people starve. The problem isnt completly the fault of our government wasting money. The real problem lies with the sponges of society. All the families that spend a lifetime trying to figure out how get more $$$ from the government. Im sorry, but if you have 5 kids that you can't afford to feed, then it is time to stop having babies. I have no pity for anyone that brings it on themselves, wheather its through their own lazyness, or promiscuity, or whatever. If you are physically able to work, you should have to work. Not sit back and hope "John and Jane Doe taxpayers" will take up the slack by supplying you with food, rent, heating assistance, toys for Christmas....etc.... This is where I have a real problem with our welfare system. I think we, as taxpayers, should report every abuse of the system we see. If you know your neighbor is collecting disabilty income, and you see him go water sking, it should be reported. We allow people to slide, and this is what we get. The welfare system is great, on paper.

I am not near wealthy.....as a matter of fact im poor. But I don't recieve any form of welfare. I work hard for the little $$ that I get. I would love to have a few things that I can't afford, but I refuse to take from someone else.

If we, as a society, were held responsible for our own actions, we would be a better people.

I thought I was the only one who saw our welfare system as a problem. I totally agree 100% with this post

[SuperYooper]

^^ your right, in America nobody needs to starve, there are jobs availabe for anyone that wants to work. Thats the bottum line. Also, how much money have YOU donated to the homless or starving? Not meant to be accusatory, just a question.