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[PolishMafia]

Umm mobscene, bush had got a message saying a terroist attack will hit a major military-business place in america on september 11; its in the movie, F-911. He should of had the country under full alert and ready with the american air force out there. On 9/11/01; before he went to the school in Florida; he knew one of the planes had hit the WTC and he didn't do anything and proceeded to the school and when he was in class with the kids; he again heard another plane hit the WTC's. He didn't do **** and just read that book in the class in Florida.

[The mOBSCENE]

well, i dont relaly pay attention to the news or what not. i havent watched the movie so thats new to me. your right in how the country should have been in full alert. seems like another Pearl Harbor to me...

[WET]

Originally Posted by The mOBSCENE

how are you going to prevent an attack that you don't know is coming?
a commercial airliner coming in straight for the trade towers isnt exactly enough warning to send out an airforce to intercept these planes... there may be some things that could have pointed this attack was coming but there is still no way of preventing that. no one on these planes knew that they were going to go on a suicide run with the planes other wise im pretty damn sure that every single last one of those passengers would have gotten up and attacked the hell out of these terrorists and prevented this cause no one is going to sit around and let that happen if they would have known it was coming.
but you also must think, every president has their bad times and their good times. i can't think of any, but there may only be one or two presidents that did almost everything right. its definatley not an easy job ill tell you that.

I have to disagree with you on that one mob. I work with the FAA and they know exactly when a plane deviates from its flight plan. When that happens an emergency action plan is set into motion. The President is the ONLY person allowed to give the order shoot down a civilian air liner. He was notified in time to give that order, but chose not to.

I don't know why he chose not to, especially after the first plane hit. We still could have shot down the last three planes.

[Soggwolf]

If you honestly beleive George Bush is evil and went to war solely for revenge and is trying to dominate the world and owns the death star etc. you are mistaken. I do not agree with George Bush's policies at all, however, I can at least respect him. He went to war based on what he knew, which we all thought too. I don't think he is the worst president ever, however, with all that being said, I don't like his agenda at all. I strongly beleive he throws religion too far into politics which is very dangerous. I would strongly suggest you look at all of their policies and their stances on the issues before voting.

Bush's problem with the economy is that he uses tax cuts to appeal to voters. The problem with this, is that when you execute a tax cut you need to cut government spending in which George Bush has not done. He instead elects to take it out of the deficit. When the 87 Billion for spending was first voted on, which it might be worthwhile to note Kerry voted for, the original way to cut the loss of money was to roll back all the tax cuts Bush has orchestrated for the rich. Instead, they changed the bill to take it out of the deficit, which Kerry voted against. In order to balance the budget, you need to cut government spending. There has been talk, however, of replacing the IRS. This is an interesting idea, I would like to see how it would be carried out.

Edit- Oh, and research all the facts concerning F 9/11. While it does raise some good questions/theories a lot of it IS propaganda and a lot of it is a stretch of the truth. This is coming from a Democrat.

[The mOBSCENE]

everyone here throws up a GREAT aurgument here... as i said, i dont pay much attention to the media which doesnt really put me in any position to try and fight against these aurguments but i will say this... when i go to vote i will put all of this into consideration before i make my final decision... :D

[Sypher]

Originally Posted by ~WETWORKS

I have to disagree with you on that one mob. I work with the FAA and they know exactly when a plane deviates from its flight plan. When that happens an emergency action plan is set into motion. The President is the ONLY person allowed to give the order shoot down a civilian air liner. He was notified in time to give that order, but chose not to.

I don't know why he chose not to, especially after the first plane hit. We still could have shot down the last three planes.

I believe this is called a catch-22. If you let the planes crash you are wrong for not shooting them down, and if you choose to have American fighter planes shoot down American passenger jets filled with American citizens just in case they might crash into a building, well that would be viewed as wrong too.
That being said I think the 2nd and 3rd planes should have been shot down before they crashed. And the passengers of the 4th plane took care of that one before it became an issue.

[PolishMafia]

Originally Posted by The mOBSCENE

well, i don't relaly pay attention to the news or what not. i havent watched the movie so thats new to me. your right in how the country should have been in full alert. seems like another Pearl Harbor to me...

Yeah I was thinking about that, another Pearl Harbor..heh. But in Pearl Harbor; more people died I think.

[P.O.T.U.S.]

If I was a over raged Republican with financial backing, I could make a movie about the problems Kerry has. Why though? I would be just as big a flop as F-911. No one is perfect. Kerry is far from it. Do a little research and Kerry. See what he agreed with then and what he has changed his views to now. Bush has always stood behind his views. Not run from them when he is question.



EL

[Jalil]

Originally Posted by GraveDigga

yes, u r all brainwashed, bush is the worst president, don't vote for a 3rd party cuz no one will and bush will win, if u don't want bush to win, vote for KERRY!!! which i would do if i was old enuff, 2 more years...but kerry will be prez by then so no worries...

that's the worst way to vote, you should be voting for a candidate that support's the same issuses you do and opposses the same one's you do.

E.G. you are strongly against abortion. you also hate bush. you vote for kerry in order to be voting against bush. you have just voted against yourself.

keep in mind this is an example, and that it can happen with any issue you support/oppose.

[Soggwolf]

Originally Posted by elawson01

If I was a over raged Republican with financial backing, I could make a movie about the problems Kerry has. Why though? I would be just as big a flop as F-911. No one is perfect. Kerry is far from it. Do a little research and Kerry. See what he agreed with then and what he has changed his views to now. Bush has always stood behind his views. Not run from them when he is question.



EL

F 9/11 was FAR from a flop. Despite it's stance, it was the fifth top grossing movie of all time per theatre (It is irrational to compare it as total grossing cost as it was only shown in 868 theatres).

Also, if you research Bush and Cheney as equally as Kerry, you will quickly note that both parties flip-flop on their issues. I don't know about you, however, I would MUCH rather have a President who can conform for the changing times and demands than someone who hard-headily keeps his stance just to "Not Flip-Flop". I can pull up lists and lists of Bush/Cheney flips just as easily as I could for Kerry. It's irrational to say that Bush/Cheney don't ever change stances.

Oh, and there is a movie coming out from the right. Check out -->This<--