Evolution

[Negative Creep]

Originally Posted by bigmike8119

I like aliens brought us here and we forgot, just ask Tom Cruise. He knows, he know everything about everything.

If you actually believe this, then I feel sorry for you, mah man.

[wammy_bar]

I think he was being sarcastic...

[Boba.Fatt]

Originally Posted by wammy_bar

I have been reading and thinking about evolution for a while now, and I have a few questions.

How does that little growth help the bird survive better? It just doesn't make sense.

The little growth does not help the bird and an example like this one you gave certainly makes Darwin's theories seem foolish. Evolution is a decent theory but also has quite a few holes.

As for how we came to be based on evolutionary theories...........(the short story)

Mammilian life begins in Africa and apes live in the trees. These apes gain primitive intelligence being high and watching what happens on the ground. Africa is loaded with trees, which means it is loaded with apes.

Thanks to continental drift and global climate changes, the enviornment of Africa goes from jungle to desert. This forces the majority of apes to resort to running for their lives while the strongest remain in the trees. the strong ones that remain are still apes today.

As for those who had the unique ability to actually run, they survived by hunting and hiding. Survivors have sex while hiding which leads to the passing on of their mutated (unique) genes to their offspring.

Fast forward many many years, and this band of survivors seek further migration for survival and the only place to do this would be by leaving Africa. Enter the middle east.

It is here, many many MANY more years where our human-like ancestry started to flourish. With minimal intelligence comes minimal thoughts as well as superior gullability. For an excellent and hysterical interpretation of how this band of survivors started to disagree with each other and form their own cults/clicks/religions, I HIGHLY recommend watching Monty Python's Life of Brian.

Too tired to type more. It's Friday, and I need to evolve into a sack of crap on my couch.

[kevinXcore]

i believe that we were created by god and slowly over time, we have adapted to our surroundings so we can survive in nature.

[Z3CH]

Originally Posted by Boba.Fatt

Too tired to type more. It's Friday, and I need to evolve into a sack of crap on my couch.

I believe that would be devolving...

Is that even a word?

[EAsTon]

Originally Posted by kevinXcore

i believe that we were created by god and slowly over time, we have adapted to our surroundings so we can survive in nature.

Originally Posted by wammy_bar

PS: This is not a religious debate, and I do not want it to turn into one. We had one, and it took its course, and we don't need another one. please keep this purely scientific and on topic. Thanks.

Yep... If you really don't have anything to say about evolution then don't even bother posting as it will just turn into a flame war.

As for evolution I feel there's things that are true and then wacked. I think it's true that we did evolve from monkeys, as we share many familiar traits.

Then you have scientist say that the ostrich is closest living relative to the T-rex. Last time I checked the T-rex was a huge walking Lizard and the Ostrich is a bird....

[.writer]

Originally Posted by EAsTon

Then you have scientist say that the ostrich is closest living relative to the T-rex. Last time I checked the T-rex was a huge walking Lizard and the Ostrich is a bird....

I don't believe this. Source plz.

[EAsTon]

Originally Posted by E. Writer

I don't believe this. Source plz.

I heard on discovery on like 100 different shows and it's in my biology text book. I'm sure it's on the internet somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look.

Edit:
Read this: More than morphology

It says Ostriches, alligators, and eagles.

[wammy_bar]

The thing that gets me is that scientists have these kinds of holes in their theory, and yet they still pass it off as 100% true. Like the thing I said about the bird, it doesn't work, most agree it doesn't work, so we don't really have an explaination for it at all, how birds have wings. To me that is huge. Yet scientists make it seem like we have it all figured out. I just hope I can live long enough to see what comes next, what scientists "know" in 50-100 years.

[Unwritten Law]

birds evolved from reptiles primarily.... both got eggs still and stuff.....

Evolution is true. I'm in an anthropology class right now and can explain more later when I learn more but its true.

Also all science isn't a bunch of guess..... Thats like saying we don't know anything about chemistry or biology and are just guessing. We are guessing (very educated guesses) on evolution and the past since we don't have actual records on it but with fossils and stuff you can find out a lot.

now to answer some questions. I'm not the best person to answer since I'm not an expert and am taking my first anthropology class now but yeah....

1.We have observed evolution on a whole. There are a lot of holes in it because fossils are basically the only info we got, they are hard to find, and and are rare that they actually formed. But if you look at primates starting like 65million years ago they have evolved from lemur type guys to large apes and they have facts on it. We haven't seen it before our eyes cause we haven't been recording info for millions of years, which is how long it takes to see it. So we go off of fossils.

2.If you wanna look at the evolution of the wing look at a bats wing... Its got 5 fingers but its like webbed over to make a wing. That probably evolved. One the bird front you gotta see that like feathers evolved first and then the thinning of bones and stuff to make it lighter so it could probably not fly but just jump high and then evolved to a wing. Its not like a human just grew a stub that over a long time turned into a wing. Of course bird were around with dinosaurs so thats a long time for more evolution till today's birds.

3.Itll change to become stronger and fill the holes in the theory...Like what was a bird before it evolved from a reptile.... we know but thats an example.