Nintendo Wii & GameCubeDiscuss the wide variety of games in general for the Wii & GameCube here. Game may already have its own section in 'Cross-Platform' above.
I'm sure a few of us may know already, but Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars is finally being released on the Virtual Console today, September 1st. I am very excited and cannot wait to play it!
I have not purchased any Virtual Console games for a while now (except Ys Books I & II; never played Ys and had some spare points), which is very sad; nothing at all has sparked my interest. I have been waiting for really really good games to come our way, and this probably has to be one of my top wanted games on the Virtual Console, on par Paper Mario.
prolly not, since ive played it numerous times on the snes and is alittle doo short and shallow to get me to fork up what they want for it. If i hadnt overplayed it the past few years on my origional snes, i wouldve though. Im waiting on some bigger rpgs now.
In the meanwhile look at vegas stakes and pokemon puzzle league. One of the best puzzle games ive ever played.
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I'm kind of interested in it, but never having played it I'm not really sure what to expect or if it's worth what they're asking. Is it anything like Paper Mario? I love those games.
While we're here, I hate that rarer games on VC cost more. If something's on VC it immediately becomes not rare - it's no longer hard to get; if you want it, it's there, not like a rare game in its original form - there are only so many cartridges of Mario RPG, for example. Everything on VC from a given era takes up the same amount of space, more or less, and is around the same tech-level of anything else from the same era, so I think it's a bit of a cheek to bump up the price on stuff like that.
I'm probably going to boycott downloading anything else on my Wii, until they finally decide to make Pro Wrestling available on the VC. I guess I am just sick and tired of seeing a majority of the lame azz WiiWare games that are constantly being released on the console.
Super Mario RPG is a step in the right direction, but it's still not enough for me.
I'm probably going to boycott downloading anything else on my Wii, until they finally decide to make Pro Wrestling available on the VC. I guess I am just sick and tired of seeing a majority of the lame azz WiiWare games that are constantly being released on the console.
Super Mario RPG is a step in the right direction, but it's still not enough for me.
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I agree with you that I'm not willing to support Nintendo until they actually crack down and make the hardcore games that everyone wants. It annoys me that the system sells so well, yet the games being released for it are getting worse and worse.
I've always wanted to try Super Mario RPG, but until Nintendo listens to the fans and stops being greedy I'm not buying.
I agree with you that I'm not willing to support Nintendo until they actually crack down and make the hardcore games that everyone wants. It annoys me that the system sells so well, yet the games being released for it are getting worse and worse.
I've always wanted to try Super Mario RPG, but until Nintendo listens to the fans and stops being greedy I'm not buying.
I think you misunderstand Negative Creep. He believes that WiiWare/Virtual Console is intolerable with the games that are currently available, not necessarily Wii games (although most are crap for non-casual gamers, I must admit). It's not necessarily a boycott against Nintendo, but everything that these two things have to offer at the moment.
It's not like Nintendo is developing all these Wii and WiiWare games -- the majority of them are made by third-party developers. The Virtual Console is a different story, however; a handful of games currently available for the Virtual Console were developed by Nintendo, so I can understand boycotting these games.
Don't take it out on Nintendo. Take it out on these third-party developers who release poorly-developed games!
I think you misunderstand Negative Creep. He believes that WiiWare/Virtual Console is intolerable with the games that are currently available, not necessarily Wii games (although most are crap for non-casual gamers, I must admit). It's not necessarily a boycott against Nintendo, but everything that these two things have to offer at the moment.
It's not like Nintendo is developing all these Wii and WiiWare games -- the majority of them are made by third-party developers. The Virtual Console is a different story, however; a handful of games currently available for the Virtual Console were developed by Nintendo, so I can understand boycotting these games.
Don't take it out on Nintendo. Take it out on these third-party developers who release poorly-developed games!
I understand that all those games being released on the Wii are developed by third-party publishers but it's Nintendo's fault that they are all (well, mostly) crap. Nintendo has no "filtering" process for their third-party games. Both Sony and Microsoft have such "filters" which prevent third-party developers from releasing the really bad games (some even like flash games) that are made.
Since Nintendo has no "filter", developers can do whatever they like and release even the most basic games on Wii. Besides, Nintendo has plenty of first-party titles that they haven't even confirmed are in the works. I think they should at least tell us what popular titles are being developed so we know something is coming.
I understand that all those games being released on the Wii are developed by third-party publishers but it's Nintendo's fault that they are all (well, mostly) crap. Nintendo has no "filtering" process for their third-party games. Both Sony and Microsoft have such "filters" which prevent third-party developers from releasing the really bad games (some even like flash games) that are made.
Since Nintendo has no "filter", developers can do whatever they like and release even the most basic games on Wii. Besides, Nintendo has plenty of first-party titles that they haven't even confirmed are in the works. I think they should at least tell us what popular titles are being developed so we know something is coming.
Nintendo's fault? Please. Most basic games? Since when were games required to not be basic and just plain fun?
All developers have to start somewhere, and you can't always expect an absolutely wonderful game to come from a brand new developer. Some of these games are made by smaller teams that may not have a big budget, either. That is why it is important to support some of these developers that have potential.
And even games that don't come from new devs, you cannot call all these games "bad." That's a major opinion, as I'm sure there are others out there that are purchasing and enjoying some of these games. We might see a wave of these games come at us for a good while, but if everyone thinks the way you do, then developers will learn that it doesn't work. And as I said before, don't bash Nintendo for giving developers an opportunity. If a game sells, it doesn't fail; it's that simple.
And give me some proof that Microsoft and Sony filter "bad" games. Never heard of this before. In fact, let me know what games you are even talking about. I want to know what your idea of bad really is.
It's not necessarily a boycott against Nintendo, but everything that these two things have to offer at the moment.
Yeah, this is more or less the point I was trying to make... I could never see myself completely boycotting Nintendo entirely... it's just the crap being released on the Virtual Console (as of late) that I want to boycott.
It just so happens that releasing Pro Wrestling would go a loooooooong way with me.
Nintendo's fault? Please. Most basic games? Since when were games required to not be basic and just plain fun?
I didn't mean to say basic games aren't fun. I meant that flash games being released on consoles isn't right and console games should have much more depth. IMHO.
I agree with you that new developers should be able to develop since many games by new developers have turned out to be amazing. But my point is that most games that have been made by third-party developers (old or new) haven't been the games that hardcore gamers such as myself are interested in.
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And give me some proof that Microsoft and Sony filter "bad" games. Never heard of this before. In fact, let me know what games you are even talking about. I want to know what your idea of bad really is.
If you read the article entitled "Quality Crap" in this issue of EGM (Electronic Gaming Monthly 221 November Issue Strategy Guide) you will notice that the Wii has no quality control for the games released on it and the PS3 and Xbox 360 both do. I believe that 1up.com released the article online at some point but after a ton of searching on that site I can't seem to find it. If you'd like I have this particular issue of EGM and I can take a picture of the article and send it to you since it's really interesting.
If you read the article entitled "Quality Crap" in this issue of EGM...
There have been articles written on this subject long before the November issue of (in my opinion crappy) EGM. And from all of the data that has been collected on this subject, Nintendo seems to be the most habitual offender of all three console manufacturers.
Some of the crap being released as WiiWare should be enough evidence of the fact... let alone the bargain bins at stores that seem to be packed to the rafters with Wii software.
Yea man peter and creep are right, Nintnedo doesnt filter thier games as well as sony or microsoft since the N64 and never on any handheld since the GBA, so no egg shooter and ninja bread man for your 360 or ps3.
While it is a bad things for shelf space, it isnt always a bad thing in the grand scheme of things. Developers for wii, just like on the DS, have a cheap way of getting thier games out, and casual people who bought thier wii's for its family functionality and inexpensiveness, get some cheap *** games. Beleive it or not, small children and/or babies will like pretty much any freakin game they play or is given to them, just like crappy DS games. So while it might be really shoddy bad games, at least somebody buys and enjoys em. So everyone wins.
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