Notice: Nintendo Universe theory is under revision! I need help on placing Xenoblade Chronicles and I will put the current version here. I I didn't know much about fire emblem, but at least the setting was clear and there was no ancient giant robot battle, no freaky laser swords, no strange landscapes (looking at you, Gaur Plain), or whatever species Riki is, but importantly Fire Emblem didn't have another genesis story. Any ideas?) End of Notice.
Here's the problem with all the crossover theories out there: they try to mash everyone up at one point in, which doesn't work. Think about it: why doesn't Link just borrow Samus's Varia suit and take down Ganon the easy way? Other times it's totally random with no structure, just based of hidden easter eggs.
Well I have found and edited a huge theory which ties everything up with no loose ends.
The person who originally came up with this on screwattack.com is known as "the goddamn batman". I have no idea who he really is, but I thank him for creating it. Parts I added in will be put in parentheses, except for chapters 3 and 12, and everything before chapter 1. That was me. This entire theory is based on your perception of it.
The Nintendo Universe Theory
Kirby is not present here simply because "Kirby" is obviously an alien world.
Part 1: The creation of the universe
In the beginning, the world was a maelstrom of chaos. No life of any kind could grow or live there. Basically, it is Detroit, 2014. Stupid self-serving puns aside, there was basically nothing until the Gods Farore, Din, and Naryu created the land, water, and creatures that would inhabit the world that now was. (They also made Palutena, known as the light goddess, and her angels, among other heavenly beings. Remember that.)
Oh, and Hylia was a creating God too as ret-conned by "Skyward Sword", so that's a thing.
In honor of the new world and I suppose themselves, the three (four?) deities left behind the triforce. A symbol of the Gods will and power, the triforce would thereafter lie in the Sacred Realm. This is clearly the only possible "first" event in the Nintendo Timeline, but while this is a back story set up in the "Legend of Zelda" games, it is never explicitly said that the Zelda timeline directly follows this event. That somewhat shaky justification leads into what I believe may be the next step in the chronology...
Part 2: Fire Emblem
When I prefixed this by saying that this theory was rough, unfinished, and in deep desire of external editing, this was the specific section that I was referring to; I know hardly anything and became aware of the series through "Super Smash Brothers Brawl". So keep that in mind, dedicated series fans, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but there wasn't anything that I found to be contradictory to placing "Fire Emblem" games in the middle/dark ages of the Nintendo world.
Part 3: Punch-Out and Mario’s Birth
Mario is born the 50’s-60’s era. Why? Because Punch-Out happens around the 80’s, and Mario made an appearance in Punch-out as a referee. This would explain why he loves sports so much. I mean come on: Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario basketball. Just google “Mario sports mix”, you’ll see what I mean. So, being too chubby and unable to participate, he became a ref instead. Mario then quit, and, like his brother Luigi, became a plumber.
Part 4: Earthbound
We move on to one of Nintendo’s series: Earthbound. Set in the Nintendo world version of the 1990's, "Earthbound" features numerous elements that will become integral parts of this shared universe, including magic and sentient animals. The magic in the game is referred to as "Psi", and is used by a select few people and, more importantly, the animal-like creatures.
Many of the enemies in "Earthbound", be they bosses or grunts, are able to use abilities like psi fire, freeze, and other elemental attacks, though it seems the mass public remain unaware of these creatures in the game. Remember that detail. Time travel is another thing established in "Earthbound", as it is how Ness and the others get to the game final level The Cave of The Past. Finally, the games horrific main villain Giygas firmly cements the existence of demonic entities and Eldridge Abominations in the Nintendo world.
As you may have guessed, remember both of those points.
The existence of the magic animals in this world would eventually lead to the world uncovering them. How would they react? Well, that leads into the next step of the Nintendo timeline...
Part 5: Pokemon
Let's assume that after "Earthbound" the societies of the Nintendo world found out that these semi sentient, abnormal-looking, magic "psi" using animals lived side by side with them, and rather than shun them, the people marvel at their existence, domesticate some, and just in general treat them like any other animal. Now let's say that multiple generations have passed since that initial discovery, and those strange looking animals have adapted into what we gamers know as Pokemon; After all, the "Pokemon" games do establish that rapid periods of change do occur in this universe, through the Pokemon's "Evolution".
(Side note: Wii fit, Duck Hunt, Pilot Wings, and Wii Sports Resort are all present day.)
Another element that links this games to "Earthbound" is the Pokemon Centers, which seem to heal the pocket monsters through sleep, or from some sort of advanced resting tech. This seems very similar to how the beds in "Earthbound" worked, which would mend injuries of Ness and his friends while they slept. Could these healing methods be one in the same? For the sake of the chronology, I think so. An advancement that the psi wielding animals also must have experienced when they became Pokemon was enhanced intelligence: We see Pokemon throughout the games create personal relationships with their trainers, or commit purely malevolent acts, such as how Drifloon kidnaps children, for example. These cognitive thoughts that are exhibited through the Pokemon's actions seems like clear proof that they posses at least some intelligence. So, what if that intelligence expanded into a full understanding of spoken language, the ability to speak it, and eventually lead to some of the Pokemon adapting into more human forms? Well, this advancement would lay the groundwork for...
Part 6: Animal Crossing
Years on from the events of the "Pokemon" games, the more primitive types would keep to themselves out in the wilderness and the more out there, ridiculous designs of Pokemon would die out. Going on with my theory, some of the more plausible, toned down Pokemon with some sense of self and enhanced intelligence would become humanoid over time, and eventually act and think as our equals. This is where "Animal Crossing" comes in, foreseeing a present where humans and animals live together in harmony as one society.
Seeing as the animals in "Animal Crossing" seem to run everything in the Nintendo world when the games take place, or are placed in a largely segregated community, which hints at a little bit of a cultural divide does seem to be hinted at between the two groups. (Keep in mind that pokemon like Yveltal and Xerneas were experimented on and others, like Mewtwo, were results of genetic manipulation, creating a general mistrust towards humans.) How would that divide continue into the distant future? As far as I can tell, two underutilized Nintendo franchises share the next step in the timeline, those being...
Part 7: Star Fox/ F-Zero
So many, many decades after the era that the "Animal Crossing" games took place in, the divide between humans and animals theoretically grew so large that the latter of the two factions, using the advancements in technology that developed over the years, flew off of the Nintendo world and into the cosmos, (possibly after a war erupted.) Using their newly cemented independence, the animals created their own fragmented society in space complete with its own military, resulting in a status quo that we see in the "Star Fox" series of games.
(At the end of one of the “Star Fox” games, Fox feels usurped by Star Wolf, who stole the Star Fox name as galactic saviours and Krystal has now abandoned them. Fox fled to Papetoon with Falco to drown out his grief, where it started to consume him, barely eating or sleeping. To cheer up his friend, Falco eventually comes up with a brain storm to leave the business of mercenaries for hire behind and become racers. They modified their Arwings into racing machines for the occasion and they were successful in that business. As they made victory after victory, Fox and Falco gradually forgot about their lives as members of Star Fox. These racing machines were known as g-zero racers, and word of these probably reached earth leading to F-zero.) Besides, the humans could use all of the present tech to advance sporting events, creating a plausible situation for the "F-Zero" franchise. People of this world might not be content with living in a terrestrial-exclusive society, and eventually would lay the groundwork for...
Part 8: Metroid
After some period of time, nondescript, humanity reaches towards the stars and expands its empire out into it, and eventually some expeditions make contact with alien life forms. Those alien races could have been, and for the sake of the timeline are, the chozo and space pirates. And also, maybe that said expedition was wiped out by a higher up member of the space pirates, all except for one female child, who was then raised by the chozo. Who could that child have been? Why, Samus Aran, the protagonist of "Metroid" of course!
With this expansion towards space, the human race reaches a new era of prosperity. A short lived era, because the next step of this timeline theory is...
Part 9: Find Mii, Kid Icarus, and the coming of Demise and ensuing apocalypse
Brace yourself, because this is where the chapters start to get long. Along with the creation of the Nintendo world by Farore, Din, and Nayru, (and Hylia.) The Hyrule historia states that the Demon King Demise waged war on the gods in an attempt to get the triforce. However, the actual time frame of the attack is never specified, so my ideas is that while most of humanity has left for space, those that remained had to live with the assault from Demise. (In the middle of the war a lot of technology is gone, especially with factories and power plants destroyed. The humans then have no choice but to revert back to a state of middle age style living.
Medusa, of “Kid Icarus”, was actually one of Demise’s lieutenants. Hades was just along for the ride. I'm not really sure where I would put this except for right here what with an underworld army attacking, and that despite ancient cities are common, there is still technology, i.e. floating platforms in chapter 6. Being set in the future would explain references to "stratagy guides", a web site, and other stuff that woldn't be invented for thousands of years.
I will assume that kid icarus takes place before and during the war, due to "uprising" taking place 20 years after the original, or the war lasting 20 years, which it probably could.)
After nearly everyone there died, (doesn't matter which timeline you end up on,) the humans resolved their differences and turned their attention back to Demise, who was just going to let the humans slaughter each other.)
(Eventually the demon was sealed but only by using the nuclear bomb (no surprise here) found in an old launch base, resulting in planetary freeze, which is why in Kirby 64 we see a frozen earth. I know this is earth because North and South America are clearly shown. The tropical areas around the equator remained safe from the freeze. Remember that.) Towards the end of war, the gods put whatever remaining survivors up into the clouds on elevated bits of land as seen in The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, and the surface below became an untamed and wild "No Man's Land" ruled by the monstrous followers of Demise.
(Find Mii is the story of some heroes who went to save the lord of their region from Demise’s soldiers.)
The Nintendo World was blacklisted by the star bound humans, and those who did survive were forced into a new dark age in the sky. Sounds bleak, but this is not the end of the Nintendo world, as in my analysis the future from here on out is actually very chipper.
Part 10: Super Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong Country, and Pikmin.
Remember how earlier on I theorized that the primitive humanoid animals and humanoid plants that spawned from Pokemon would keep to themselves out in the wild? Well, after the attack and defeat of Demise that resulted in humans abandoning the surface, the less advanced creatures ruled the world.
On a secluded island near the equator, a clan of apes would fight against a syndicate of crocodile-like reptiles for dominance, and the events of the "Donkey Kong Country" games then took place. Likewise, fungal-like creatures that eventually received human/"Star Fox" animal levels of intelligence formed their own civilized nation that would become the Mushroom Kingdom. Piantas, not to mention the pikmin, bulblords, and other animals found in Pikmin, are all products of large doses of nuclear radiation, allowing the "Super Mario Brothers" and "Pikmin" games to transpire.
First off, I found that Olimar is actually an alien, so he would have left his home planet and stumbled across planet PNF-404, a.k.a. earth. This is clearly earth as shown by the modern items laying around like the Duracell battery to the globe of the earth used as a map.
Now for Mario. This only works if we assume that the original back story of Mario and Luigi, where they were humans from our world that were transported to the Mushroom Kingdom via warp pipe (which either brought them through time or they MIGHT have been human survivors in an underground bunker), is the canonical one. And another question is the kingdoms ruler, the very human Princess Peach, is on the surface when most fled to the surface. My theory is that Peach was left behind during the war between Demise and the gods, and was found by the toads during the aftermath. The next paragraph's info is taken from The Thinking Gamer's video "Is the Nintendo Universe Post-Apocalyptic?".
(Princess Peach and her father (in SMB. 3) are survivors and are the remaining government force of Russia, as shown by her prevalent lifestyle and insistance on royal title. Look at the similarities between Peach's castle and the russian castles below. She clearly is of Russian descent (Photos at the end of post). The castles used by Bowser and the castles at the end of levels also appear to be Russian (See next paragraph).
The mk8 antigravity racers are leftover future tech. His video states more on this, including the locations of world 1, world 2, etc. But in order to accept my theory, disregard everything except for the Super Mario, Pikmin, and Kid Icarus sections, as he doesn't talk much on other franchises, and I explained the other franchises already. (No offense to you Mr. Thinking Gamer, it's still a good theory.) I advise you to watch his video.)
Of course, with all of my references to Nayru, Din, Farore, Hylia, The Sacred Realm, the Triforce, and Demise, there is only one franchise that could possibly come next in the Nintendo timeline. So to conclude, the next step is...
Part 11: The Legend of Zelda
Eventually, Earth thawed out, and from this point onward the standard Zelda timeline begins starting from "Zelda: Skyward Sword". Rather than theoretically explain what happens with poor writing, I'll instead provide my motivations for placing "the Legend of Zelda" series at the end of the Nintendo chronology. First of all, I just love the idea of "Zelda" being a post-apocalyptic story: The concept is what sparked this theory in the first place. Secondly, and this is an actual point I promise, the presence of robots in "Skyward Sword" started this theory. In the game, there are at least three robots that make appearances, and all seem to be extremely old by the time Link discovers them. How could they be of a significant age if they are technologically advanced in comparison to "Skyward Sword" present? Unless, of course, it was a relic of a "futuristic", cyberpunk age.
(In the Hyrule Historia, the timeline branches into 3 timelines, which can be confusing. Therefore I believe that when link played the ocarina of time, he not only changed time or time-traveled or whatever, he SHATTERED time, and because this was "before" the other three possible timelines played out, and it could diverge into any of these 3, it allows not only for the 3 timelines to play out along side each other, but for super smash bros. and every easter egg in the nintendo series! Samus and Link in "Super Mario RPG", Mario portraits in ocarina of time, the komaytos in kid icarus, which look suspiciously like metroids, cranky kong's comment of Link visiting his shop, a mario mask on the creepy mask salesman's pack and a pikachu mask in his shop, Samus's gunship in DK: tropical freeze, Link and Villager racing in Mariokart 8, plus the Excite bike and Mute city racetracks, the running man, the list goes on and on! Oh yeah and there are awesome mario easter eggs hidden in Lego city undercover, check 'em out!)
(Now I know there are like, ELEVEN different Links, so it is possible that all Links were fused into 3 people by the gods in order to avoid conflict. Toon Link, the hero of the wind, was one. Young Link, the hero of time, was another. All Links from the timeline in which Link dies during Ocarina are fused into the Hero of twilight. I already believed the zelda multiverse theory before I found that Game Theory episode "The Zelda Timeline Theory", thank-you so much "Back to the Future 2". There are 2 Links in every game except for the 1st smash bros, so none of the others can be in separate universes.
(Why is there so much nintendo stuff in animal crossing? Because after the timeline got mixed up, Wario saw a money-making opportunity and he decided to cash in and sell the mario story to the entertainment industry.)
Part 12: The Subspace Emissary and after T.L.P.
This part is more uncertain so you can change this if you want.
Master Hand? He embodies creation so he would be god and have created Palutena, the Zelda goddesses, and Arceas, and Crazy Hand would be his arch-nemesis.
So, after the timeline was screwed up (I will refer to this as T.L.P., Timeline Paradox), a subspace army invaded, as seen in the The Subspace Emissary Adventure mode of ssbb.
So where did subspace come from? Well, throughout the games we see references to an opposite, "dark" pocket dimension, and beings from this world.
For example: Dark Samus, Dark Link, Shadow mario, cosmic mario, Shadoo, and the distortion world in pokemon that Giratina was banished to.
Not to mention pocket dimensions like Termina, and Flat zone. So this distortion world is probably Subspace. And maybe this is where all gaming franchises are linked.
Sort of like the Astral plane, it's the area between dimensions. If you've played D&D you know what I'm talking about. This explains the presence of of Pac-man, Sonic, Megaman, and Snake.
For example, look at Pit. In TSE, we first see him watching a fighting match between Mario and Kirby. Why is this important? Because he's cheering for his favorite competitor. Just like you do when you watch a football game and you root for your favorite team because you know who's who, where each team is from. You keep track of your group's wins and losses and try to predict who will win. Because you've had time to research this stuff. Pit is not just looking at 2 people who think the other guy's evil. It's a full blown sport competition taking place with Zelda and Peach as celebrity figures crowds of spectators. This isn't a mindless, violent mashup with no meaning. Pit KNOWS who Mario is, he KNOWS who Kirby is. It takes place in a man-made arena, for crying out loud! I believe that because master hand is god, he would create a competition to unite people from these diffferent eras and prevent total chaos from breaking out. In other words, Master Hand created Super Smash Bros. And by enlisting them in this, he can prevent Ganon and Bowser from trying to take over for the umpteenth time. But back to Pit. This all shows that mankind has had time to create a civilized community, but not enough for everyone to know everyone. Until Snake comes in. He has absolutely NO idea what's going on, PERIOD, because he's not from this world. This is why non-nintendo fighters are called "Guest fighters". (Yes, I know that Sheik attacked Fox, but only because not everyone is quite up to speed on what exactly has happened. Plus, he was shooting at them because 1. everyone thought that the Halberd was under the control of the bad guys until 2. the good guys get control of it back only to find that someone they don't know (Fox) is shooting at them. I can see why Sheik would try to kill this guy that they thought might be another adversary.)
So everything is going smoothly in the Nintendo Universe with Smash Bros. keeping carnage from raging between these nations, some of which think that a taxi is a monster or that they can subdue the less advanced peoples. Until something out of MH's control invaded from another dimension: Tabuu.
So in closing, I'd like to tell you one more thing. You may recall another theory in which Master Hand was really a little boy who played with his toys. And as contradicting as this sounds, that is absolutely true. I said at the beginning that this entire theory is based on your perception of it. Super Smash bros. is not just the imagination of the little boy or the way the boy sees his toys, but how everyone views, and more importantly, imagines the games to be. Same thing with Master Hand. He is the embodiement of the gamer. In a timeline sense, yes, he is god. But in relation to the real world, Master Hand is you, me, the video game fanfic writer, the company who makes the game, the fan who makes and changes a game, the video game theory writer, the guy who randomly guesses about things in the game that haven't been cleared up yet, like where Zelda Wii U will take place in the Zelda timeline. However you see the game, weather you think that Link is dead in Majora's Mask or that Super Mario Bros. was just a stageplay, that makes you Master Hand of the video game world as you perceive it. (No, I am not a New Age believer who thinks that we are all literally God and I'm not trying to make you guys think that. I can't stand that stuff.) Thank-you for reading, and congratulations if you made it this far. And I know fusing Link into 3 people is Farfetch'd (Like this if you get that inside joke!), but it was the only thing I could think of. Suggestions are welcome.
"The Goddamn Batman" on screw attack.com
"The Thinking Gamer" on Youtube.