Gears of War 2 faults

[albinosqurrl]

Everyone is saying how good it is, but to be honest, I think the online is pretty good...not gears 1. I played that a lot, and loved it. They made the new one a lot less skill involved. Chainsaw is ridiculous. Flamer is for flamers. The mortar and mulcher in online? Really? The primary weapon, shotgun lol, is schizophrenic. Yea, its more realistic, but its so different from the first one, it doesnt work as well. DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE SMOKE GRENADES.
The thing that really pisses me off here though is the matchmaking. Why fix what isnt broken? I don't like the integration of player and ranked matches, I'm a leaderboard junky, andi dont like how when i want to just fool around with some friends, it affects my stats. Games only to 5? Wtf? I enjoyed having an hour long game, first to 15. That along with weapon cycles allow for no realt strategies to develop before the match is over. And i dont feel like playing with jsut my friends to ahve these luxories, I want to pwn some people i dont know. The voting system blows. Completely unnecessary if we just kept the original so you could pick the exact stats you want.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by albinosqurrl

Everyone is saying how good it is, but to be honest, I think the online is pretty good...not gears 1. I played that a lot, and loved it. They made the new one a lot less skill involved. Chainsaw is ridiculous. Flamer is for flamers. The mortar and mulcher in online? Really? The primary weapon, shotgun lol, is schizophrenic. Yea, its more realistic, but its so different from the first one, it doesnt work as well. DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE SMOKE GRENADES.
The thing that really pisses me off here though is the matchmaking. Why fix what isnt broken? I dont't like the integration of player and ranked matches, I'm a leader board junky, andi dont like how when i want to just fool around with some friends, it affects my stats. Games only to 5? Wtf? I enjoyed having an hour long game, first to 15. That along with weapon cycles allow for no real strategies to develop before the match is over. And i dont feel like playing with jsut my friends to have these luxuries, I want to pwn some people i dont know. The voting system blows. Completely unnecessary if we just kept the original so you could pick the exact stats you want.

I got banned from the Epic forums for complaining too much... Kind of similar to your approach. Atleast here we can bash them all we want and they cant do anything about it.


Chainsaw IS ridiculous. Sometimes the range is within normal limits.. other times it'll get you from a mile away.

The Mortar is ridiculous.. Too powerful and you really have no warning where the bombs will drop.

The primary weapon, shotgun lol, is schizophrenic.

Pretty good description. Sometimes it'll do its job, sometimes it wont do anything..including 7 shotgun blasts directly to the head.

The knock-down effect of the smoke grenades they need to remove immediately. this is BY FAR one of the stupidest inventions ever. Whenever you try to get remotely close to the other team you know atleast one person will throw a smoke grenade that will knock you down. Smoke grenades in NO OTHER GAME will stun & knock a person game. Whoever in Epic thought up that idea needs his head examined.

You forgot to mention the Torque Bow and Boomshot.

You get NO WARNING at all when someone fires a Boomshot at you...or gets you from behind. Most times you never even know what hit you. And there is no way to avoid it if a guy is right in front of you... Your instantly dead no matter what. Even if you try to roll out of the way. It is the stupidest fokn gun in the game.

Torque Bow is ridiculous. Its way too overpowered and too easy to use. Most times you just need to rev it up for a second ..for it to shoot and stick. If the guy in front of you has a Torque Bow, and your within 20 feet of him..you mine as well just kiss your azz goodbye.

Too many fok'd up things with this game. They need to give us either a Shotgun only mode or a Lancer / Shotgun mode with all the maps..like there was with Raven Down. The best and most played map in GOW1. The developers didnt like that small map since it was mostly for run-n-gunners... My guess is they couldnt handle that type of gameplay...and wanted everything to be all open with Longshots and Torque bows and that kind of crap. The type of stuff that ruins all games with hardcore Campers .

Most diehards I played with on GOW1, cant even stand GOW2 and constantly complain about how they ruined the game.

The ranking system I read yesterday only has a maximum of 5 Ranks. And they mentioned that consistently winning games will get your rank up. The didnt mention anything about "kills" being the main factor.

With that being said, they probably wont do anything to fix this game.

[OME6A]

I didn't like either Gears 1 or Gears 2 online. All they are is a race to the best weapons, and I think that's lame. To me that removes all skill, and favors people who know each map inside and out.

I thought Gears 2 was a little more balanced though. You could still be dangerous even if you didn't make it to the torque bow or hammer of dawn.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by OME6A

I didn't like either Gears 1 or Gears 2 online. All they are is a race to the best weapons, and I think that's lame. To me that removes all skill, and favors people who know each map inside and out.

Exactly my thoughts..same reason I returned Halo 3 in two days of playing it. Its a big g@y dash to the big guns every round..

And probably is the same reason Call of Duty is more played then both of these games. Both teams start out equally with the best guns.

[DSHFilut]

I loved gears of war 1 and I was very excited for this one. Once I got online and started playing I really tried my hardest to like it but now after a few weeks I can play it anymore. They really did ruin the game. I am going to stick with COD or Fallout from now on. If epic decide to pull their head out of their *** and fix a lot of stuff then I will happily go back and play but until then that game is just going to collect dust.

[omegafate]

actually i liked it it was a big change and the game needed it

i meen my self i dont play online (i got a pc for free online gaming for that)

i liked the story and such.

[albinosqurrl]

wow this is a suprisingly agreeable thread hahaha
i was expecting to get bashed on by noobs hahahaha. its great to see im not the only one out there that feels this way about the game though. I really dislike it... I play it for lack of anything else. I'd go back to teh first in a heartbeat if it still had the players on it

[The mOBSCENE]

Originally Posted by Libertine

And probably is the same reason Call of Duty is more played then both of these games. Both teams start out equally with the best guns.

Maybe not the best guns, but at least the user can choose if they want to start with a disadvantage or not.

The best guns for the rifles, smg's, and sniper rifles are the ones you start with (M16, MP5, M40) but it all matters from there which perks you choose for certain game modes.

[Conflicted]

Eh, I played this the other day. I mean, I bought it, I really really really want to play it, but it's hard to. My only real problem with the game now is the matchmaking. If the matchmaking was like Gears1, I wouldn't have a problem with the game.

When I played yesterday or so, one kid would grenade tag everything near him and camp the same spot every round. RIDICULOUSLY cheap, but it isn't that hard to avoid them and all. It really pissed me off though, since he was always the last guy left and we HAD to go get the homo. Of course, this gave him some 15 kills that game, which is annoying for some kid who camps every round.

So that game ended, and I wanted to go to another map/game to rape that kid, then I remembered you get kicked back to matchmaking, so I raged, ripped the game out of my 360.

[BlueDaimonds]

Well obviously there are faults

online issues with the whole "match making"

developers really should have stuck with gears of war 1 online but just improved on its faults

Story mode was great....gears of war 1 campaign felt like there was no real story...just a whole bunch of soldiers fighting monsters until you get to the final boss...

Horde is fun as hell...especially when your with good players lol

and lag has gotten worse...now i find myself shooting my shotgun at the ground and getting 5 second delay until the bullet actually hits the ground

[JPetrillo]

I donno... sometimes I'd just be running around and get suck on the map and have to back up to be able to move foward again... that was annoying. Happened a bunch of times.

[rob za pirate]

i agree with most of wat ur sayin especially some of the weps are really uneven. i f****** hate the shotgun now its a piece of trash dosnt work anymore. really pissed me off. also the party system is nice sometimes but also it just takes a long time and with a game that last 15 min i sit in a lobby waiting for another game for 5 to 10 min every time. its just so agravatin. i strongly dislike some of the new maps and all da environmental kills. they really went overbourd with that. the BOOMSHOT OMFG i cant stand that thing. the new sniper which used 2 be my fav wep is now slightly different in da fact that wen your zoomed it moves slower than a person that is running so u cant follow ur target.
the game is alright but gears 1 is better multiplayer in my oppinion. in gears 1 it was constantly an intense experiance that was up close and personal. assault rifles do WAY too much damage i cant get close enough to shotgun sumtimes. i would say that it is generally worth it because of horde. it has its faults but its pretty fun i would say. on a local system link playing gears 2 with my friends was the best gaming experiance ive evar had but online its just annoying. if u hav the patience to get real good,
(or cheap depends on ur style) then its a worth while experiance but i would say this was the biggest dissapointment of 2008 besides mirrors edge... but thats a different story

[The mOBSCENE]

Originally Posted by rob za pirate

also the party system is nice sometimes but also it just takes a long time and with a game that last 15 min i sit in a lobby waiting for another game for 5 to 10 min every time.

That's because it was a failed attempt to be like Halo.

Originally Posted by rob za pirate

dislike some of the new maps and all da environmental kills. they really went overbourd with that.

Enviromental kills add a new aspect and strategy to the game. I like it.

Originally Posted by rob za pirate

the new sniper which used 2 be my fav wep is now slightly different in da fact that wen your zoomed it moves slower than a person that is running so u cant follow ur target.

Turn your look sensitivity up... I don't have any problems at all keeping up with people while zoomed.

Originally Posted by rob za pirate

assault rifles do WAY too much damage i cant get close enough to shotgun sumtimes.

That's because they were EXTREMELY underpowered in Gears 1. It was pretty much pointless to have your lancer out unless your full intent was to chainsaw someone. If you can't run at someone head on because they have an assault rifle out, then go around or try to trick the other player.

[rob za pirate]

maybe i should go around but thats not wat the first gears was like and i like being able to go head on to an opponent and stand a chance. obviously i can go around or trick them but i dont like it

[The mOBSCENE]

Originally Posted by rob za pirate

maybe i should go around but thats not wat the first gears was like and i like being able to go head on to an opponent and stand a chance. obviously i can go around or trick them but i dont like it

How would you feel if you were on the other end of that exchange though? You are standing there blasting someone and they are just continually running STRAIGHT at you then two piece you... you would be pretty damn mad wouldn't you? The stopping power on the assault rifles give you a chance in situations like that now and make the other player move around more and find a way to get to you.