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I own a PS3, and I love it. But the Xbox 360 is a very popular system. The PS3 definitely has more horsepower under the hood, but Xbox seems to do things right in other areas to be successful. I'm not happy about a lot of the decisions that Sony makes in various areas, but I definitely wouldn't trade my PS3 for a 360 (personal choice). For the first year and a half, Xbox 360 definitely had the upper hand on the PS3. But now it seems as though they're pretty much equal. Sony has put out some great exclusive titles, such as Metal Gear Solid 4, LittleBigPlanet, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, and Resistance 2. But it seems like more game developers are going multi-platform, so it's starting to get to the point where exclusive games aren't going to be the deciding factor when choosing which system to buy.
I really don't think you can go wrong with a PS3 or a Xbox 360. Both of them definitely have their pros and cons. I would just be afraid of the Xbox 360's hardware failure, since that's been a major problem with a lot of people. The PS3 definitely has the potential and the hardware to be the best system out there, but it's not at its full potential right now. I believe the 360 is currently at its full potential, and it's doing very well. But the PS3 keeps doing better and better as time passes, and it's getting closer to reaching its full potential. Like I said though, you can't go wrong with either system. If you like playing games online, then look at which system the majority of your friends have. Because you won't get to play with them if you have a different system. The majority of my friends have PS3's, so we get to play together often. Also, with the economy the way it is, price of the console is becoming a big factor. You can get a 360 cheaper than a PS3. An 80GB PS3 is $100 more expensive than the 60GB Xbox 360. But like I said earlier, you're getting better hardware with the PS3, so you're getting what you pay for.
Who are you, and what have you done with the real Killens?
Haha. Trust me, I still stand by the PS3 as my choice of the two systems. 10 times out of 10, I'll take the PS3 over the Xbox 360. But that doesn't mean that the Xbox 360 is a bad system by any means. The thing is, there are a lot of other areas outside of just the system itself. When it comes to the console itself, the Xbox 360 falls short of the PS3 by far. HOWEVER... Microsoft does a lot of things better than Sony when it comes to satisfying its customers. I've been upset by the fact that Sony has been refusing to pay money to get exclusive 3rd party titles and other cool stuff, when Microsoft seems to understand the importance of paying for that stuff. You could sum it up by saying that Sony has the upper hand on the hardware side and Microsoft has the upper hand on the software side.
But the reason I still stick by the PS3 is because I've seen things improve dramatically over the past months. There have been some great exclusive titles come out for the PS3 in 2008, and Sony has really come through to meet a lot of wishes of the customers through the firmware updates and other things as well. Just need to keep that up, and cut out all the dumb decisions that they've been known for making in the past. I really don't think they'll be able to get to the point where the PS3 is cheaper than the Xbox 360, because the PS3 costs more to make. I don't see that as a bad thing though, because you get what you pay for, and you definitely get a better console for your money with the PS3. I would just like to see the PS3's whole online experience get up to par with the Xbox 360's.
2008 was 100 times a better year for PS3 than 2007 was. Hopefully the trend will continue and 2009 will be 100 times better than 2008. Sony definitely has a few home run exclusive titles coming out in 09 (Killzone 2, God of War 3, Grand Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, inFamous, L.A. Noire, MAG, Twisted Metal, and Savage Moon). Ratchet & Clank Future 2 and Uncharted 2 are both probabilities as well. I'm quite sure that a few of those titles will end up being like Haze (a big disappointment). But I'm still excited, because I know that quite a few of those games will be heavy hitters for the PS3. Let's just hope that Sony will make a lot of smart decisions on 2009, and keep this upward trend going for them.
Haha. Trust me, I still stand by the PS3 as my choice of the two systems. 10 times out of 10, I'll take the PS3 over the Xbox 360. But that doesn't mean that the Xbox 360 is a bad system by any means. The thing is, there are a lot of other areas outside of just the system itself. When it comes to the console itself, the Xbox 360 falls short of the PS3 by far. HOWEVER... Microsoft does a lot of things better than Sony when it comes to satisfying its customers. I've been upset by the fact that Sony has been refusing to pay money to get exclusive 3rd party titles and other cool stuff, when Microsoft seems to understand the importance of paying for that stuff. You could sum it up by saying that Sony has the upper hand on the hardware side and Microsoft has the upper hand on the software side.
But the reason I still stick by the PS3 is because I've seen things improve dramatically over the past months. There have been some great exclusive titles come out for the PS3 in 2008, and Sony has really come through to meet a lot of wishes of the customers through the firmware updates and other things as well. Just need to keep that up, and cut out all the dumb decisions that they've been known for making in the past. I really don't think they'll be able to get to the point where the PS3 is cheaper than the Xbox 360, because the PS3 costs more to make. I don't see that as a bad thing though, because you get what you pay for, and you definitely get a better console for your money with the PS3. I would just like to see the PS3's whole online experience get up to par with the Xbox 360's.
2008 was 100 times a better year for PS3 than 2007 was. Hopefully the trend will continue and 2009 will be 100 times better than 2008. Sony definitely has a few home run exclusive titles coming out in 09 (Killzone 2, God of War 3, Grand Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, inFamous, L.A. Noire, MAG, Twisted Metal, and Savage Moon). Ratchet & Clank Future 2 and Uncharted 2 are both probabilities as well. I'm quite sure that a few of those titles will end up being like Haze (a big disappointment). But I'm still excited, because I know that quite a few of those games will be heavy hitters for the PS3. Let's just hope that Sony will make a lot of smart decisions on 2009, and keep this upward trend going for them.
understandable and your right, there was just one problem that I had with the PS3 that made me choose the xbox over it, basically just lack of anything new or innovative, which is what i was expeting to get buying a brand new system. NOw I did like the slick and fast GUI and Bluray, but waiting almost two years from launch to get what seem to be almost basic features just pissed me off after a while, and I feel sorry for early adopters like myself and die hard fanboys that got shafted paying 4-600 dollars for that 2006 peice of crap (that it was at the time). At least apple gave Iphone early adopters a hundred bucks lol.
Now im not just biasedly bashing the PS3, im just having a hard time figuring out
why the PS3 devout have this "lets wait it out" approach to the system, and its going into year 3 now and still having to wait for improvement that, besides HOME, is usually not new, and pretty much features that should already be there. Thats really not my definition of fun, more like frustrating.
Not to say Waiting for RROD returns arent frustrating either, but at least you can go right back to fun afterwards.
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I LOVE my ps3, I love Linux for it. I wish it didn't lag as much online, I like the titles for it. I will admit, they are behind the 360 in alot of areas, but the PS3 is NOT a bad system by anymeans. Then again, I'm posting this from it right now, its basically my new computer.
Like Killer said, PS3 has the hardware, Xbox has the Software. COULD YOU IMAGINE, if they made one together? Holy ****.
Like Killer said, PS3 has the hardware, Xbox has the Software. COULD YOU IMAGINE, if they made one together? Holy ****.
It's not that hard to imagine, look at Sega. It is absolutely true that software makes the system though - my favourite system of the last generation was the Dreamcast. It was the least powerful (and least successful) of all the systems, but it had so many great ideas and its software lineup was amazing and full of original stuff. It's a tragedy that it failed.
Anyway, while we're on the subject, does PS3 have the hardware? I'm getting sick to death of buying PS3 games that look like a jaggy mess because the system doesn't do AA. Why on earth it doesn't is beyond me because there's no doubt it's a more powerful system than the 360, but in my opinion 360 games end up looking better purely because of AA support. I'm not sure if I already mentioned this before in this thread or somewhere else...
It's not that hard to imagine, look at Sega. It is absolutely true that software makes the system though - my favourite system of the last generation was the Dreamcast. It was the least powerful (and least successful) of all the systems, but it had so many great ideas and its software lineup was amazing and full of original stuff. It's a tragedy that it failed.
Anyway, while we're on the subject, does PS3 have the hardware? I'm getting sick to death of buying PS3 games that look like a jaggy mess because the system doesn't do AA. Why on earth it doesn't is beyond me because there's no doubt it's a more powerful system than the 360, but in my opinion 360 games end up looking better purely because of AA support. I'm not sure if I already mentioned this before in this thread or somewhere else...
oh it has the hardware, we just have to wait a few more years to see its potential unleashed
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understandable and your right, there was just one problem that I had with the PS3 that made me choose the xbox over it, basically just lack of anything new or innovative, which is what i was expeting to get buying a brand new system. NOw I did like the slick and fast GUI and Bluray, but waiting almost two years from launch to get what seem to be almost basic features just pissed me off after a while, and I feel sorry for early adopters like myself and die hard fanboys that got shafted paying 4-600 dollars for that 2006 peice of crap (that it was at the time). At least apple gave Iphone early adopters a hundred bucks lol.
Now im not just biasedly bashing the PS3, im just having a hard time figuring out
why the PS3 devout have this "lets wait it out" approach to the system, and its going into year 3 now and still having to wait for improvement that, besides HOME, is usually not new, and pretty much features that should already be there. Thats really not my definition of fun, more like frustrating.
Not to say Waiting for RROD returns arent frustrating either, but at least you can go right back to fun afterwards.
I can see your point of view. But there's one thing I have to say differently. You mentioned that the PS3 lacked anything new or innovative. I see it as the complete opposite. The Xbox360 is using technology that has been around for a long time, hence the reason it's much easier to develop games for it than the PS3. On the other hand, the PS3 was made using brand new technology, the Cell processor. That's why developers have had some problems developing games for it, because the technology is new and there has been a learning curve. The PS3 also uses Bluetooth technology, which is a newer technology. Its multi-media capabilities is also a newer idea. But, it's not necessarily a bad thing that the 360 is using older technology, because it has made it easier to produce some great games.
Also, the software battle isn't as lopsided as it used to be. Of course this can be easily argued, but I believe that Sony has had a lineup of exclusive games in 2008 that is pretty much equal to the 360's exclusive lineup of 2008. And PS3 DEFINITELY has the stronger exclusive game lineup for 2009 (so far, that is). I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who will say that they're not interested in the PS3's 2009 exclusive games, but that doesn't meant that they won't be great quality and receive great reviews.
Also, the software battle isn't as lopsided as it used to be. Of course this can be easily argued, but I believe that Sony has had a lineup of exclusive games in 2008 that is pretty much equal to the 360's exclusive lineup of 2008. And PS3 DEFINITELY has the stronger exclusive game lineup for 2009 (so far, that is).
You said the same thing about 2008.
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I'm not saying that the 360 is a horrible system. I'm just saying that OVERALL, it's not up to par with the PS3. Of course, there are things about the 360 that are better than the PS3. And yes, the 360 did own the PS3 LAST YEAR in 2007. But no matter what aspect you look at, the PS3 has become the better system in 2008. It has beaten the 360 in sales since January, and the PS3 also has a MUCH better game lineup in 2008. The 360 has two heavy-hitters coming out this year... Gears of War 2 and Fable 2. THAT'S IT! PS3 has Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance 2, Grand Turismo 5, Motorstorm 2, Killzone 2, Haze, LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM Confrontation, and (probably in 2009) Final Fantasy XIII and God of War 3. Also, Bioshock 2 will most likely also be on PS3. NOBODY in here can honestly tell me that 360 has a better game lineup this year.
Haze lol.
Anyway, my point is, since the day the PS3 came out, the defining reason for people defending it is because of what's going to come out in the future. Not what's out for it now, but "It will blow the 360 away next year! You'll see!" Obviously, it hasn't happened. How long do devs need to get to grips with the hardware and people stop making excuses for it? Come on, it's been how long, 2 years now?
The vast, vast, vast majority of gamers couldn't give two figs about what's under the hood. They ask themselves probably two important questions. The first being "Which one has games I want to play?" and the second being "Which one do multiplatform games look best on?" It doesn't matter which one has the most horsepower, it makes no difference if it can't produce the best looking games. If the 360 is technically a worse machine but produces better looking games, Joe Public doesn't give a toss, and he buys the 360.
It's not that hard to imagine, look at Sega. It is absolutely true that software makes the system though - my favourite system of the last generation was the Dreamcast. It was the least powerful (and least successful) of all the systems, but it had so many great ideas and its software lineup was amazing and full of original stuff. It's a tragedy that it failed.
Anyway, while we're on the subject, does PS3 have the hardware? I'm getting sick to death of buying PS3 games that look like a jaggy mess because the system doesn't do AA. Why on earth it doesn't is beyond me because there's no doubt it's a more powerful system than the 360, but in my opinion 360 games end up looking better purely because of AA support. I'm not sure if I already mentioned this before in this thread or somewhere else...
I'm gonna have to call your bluff about the PS3 not doing AA. And also about 360 games looking better. I'm gonna go back to the IGN review of Grand Theft Auto IV. Here's the exact quote from the review...
"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud."
Like I said earlier, you can't go wrong having either system. But as you see, that stated that the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. So... Not only does the PS3 do AA, as you stated it didn't, but in this case it does it even better than the 360. And it's stated right there that the edge goes to the PS3 as to which version looks better. I'm not saying any of this with hostility, but I just had to call you out on that whole deal about the PS3 not doing AA. In fact, most of the multi-platform game reviews I've read has said that the PS3 does the better anti-aliasing and the 360 has more detailed colors. I'm certainly not bashing the 360 though, cause it's a great system. I just wanted to clarify the anti-aliasing deal. And yes, I know that this doesn't apply to EVERY multi-platform game.
Oh, and here's the link to that review, in case anyone thinks I made that whole quote up. I got that quote from the last paragraph on page 5 of the review. IGN: Grand Theft Auto IV Review
I'm fortunate (or unfortunate) enough to have owned both versions of GTA as my 360 red-ringed halfway through the 360 game. I can tell you categorically that the PS3 version definately does not have better AA than the 360. It looks a damn sight worse (but admittedly does perform slightly better) than the 360 version. You can choose not to believe me if you wish, but I've seen it first hand.
Check out this link to a Fallout 3 comparison vid, then tell me PS3 does AA. Feel free to look around the site for more comparison vids. They're all more or less the same.
I'm fortunate (or unfortunate) enough to have owned both versions of GTA as my 360 red-ringed halfway through the 360 game. I can tell you categorically that the PS3 version definately does not have better AA than the 360. It looks a damn sight worse (but admittedly does perform slightly better) than the 360 version. You can choose not to believe me if you wish, but I've seen it first hand.
Check out this link to a Fallout 3 comparison vid, then tell me PS3 does AA. Feel free to look around the site for more comparison vids. They're all more or less the same.
Yeah, I had read the IGN reviews on Fallout 3 and they said the 360 version is better. They said "The PS3 version has shown us substantially more bugs than what you get on PC and 360." But even if you're right and IGN is wrong about GTAIV, you still said that the PS3 doesn't do AA at all. In IGN's opinion, the PS3 not only did AA on GTAIV, but it did it better than the 360.
On a side note, there is one thing I have to give the 360 MAJOR credit for. They have taken some big exclusive franchises away from the Playstation. Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, and Tekken were all major exclusives for Sony, and now they're on the 360 as well. Sony has done a few to the 360 as well though, taking Bioshock away as a 360 exclusive. Bioshock 2 is gonna release on PS3 at the same time as 360 as well. But I SO wish that Left 4 Dead would have came out on PS3. That game looks so fun, I would love to play it. But Metal Gear 4 is still the most awesome game I've ever played, so I'm glad I have the PS3.
