NFL football general discussion

[layla17]

Jeff Garcia is much better than Brad Johnson. He definitely is a grreat addition to the team.

[DeAtHaBiT]

Panthers SUCK!


Chicago has Brian Griese just waiting. 10 year vet who could turn the tables, if only for 1 season, but you're always playing to win this year, not the next. Especially only 3 weeks in.

[dansdarkside]

Originally Posted by murqq

lol @ rex being the bears best chance at winning

comin from the guy who said t.o isnt gonna do **** this year that doesnt surprise me you said it

I also said that Terry would have nothing to so I am 50% right so far lol.

And if you take away the first 3 games Rex would be a better starter then Brian Griese. (Just looked at his stats, didn't realize he has 6 INT and 8 sacks already.)

[DeAtHaBiT]

Originally Posted by dansdarkside

I also said that Terry would have nothing to so I am 50% right so far lol.

He hasn't been able to play due to an injury. That says nothing towards his skill. You're a moron you know that right?

Thats like saying after Greg Oden got injured that he's not going to put up any good stats in basketball. Wow, I have to say it again, you're a moron.

[dansdarkside]

Note: I said that at least a couple weeks before he got hurt. Not once did I say that it was going to be due to injury or skill.

What is up with all this pent up aggression in you, did your mommy not hug you enough when you where a child? Do you need a hug?

[DeAtHaBiT]

Griese to replace Grossman at QB for Bears

Griese to replace Grossman at QB for Bears

NFL.com Wire Reports

The NFL Network's Adam Schefter has confirmed that Brian Griese will start at quarterback Sunday for the Chicago Bears.
Griese will replace Rex Grossman, who threw three interceptions as the Chicago Bears fell to the Dallas Cowboys 34-10 on Sunday night and did not get a vote of confidence from his coach a day later.
"Will Rex Grossman start Sunday?" coach Lovie Smith asked on Monday, repeating the question. "Well, our evaluation process is going on right now, and if you come out to practice Wednesday, you'll have a better idea of who will be starting at all positions."
Jonathan Daniel / Getty ImagesRex Grossman's struggles have lead the Bears to turn to Brian Griese.
Smith gave his usual answer when asked Sunday night about Grossman -- "Rex Grossman is our quarterback" -- but his tone was different on Monday, fueling speculation Brian Griese might start Sunday against Detroit.
Grossman's supporters would have a hard time arguing against the move, considering he ranks 23rd in the league with 500 yards, has a 45.2 passer rating and is 47-of-89 (52.8 percent) with a league-leading six interceptions and just one touchdown.
But is Griese the answer?
A Pro Bowl pick with Denver in 2000, he has passed for 16,564 yards, but has also been released three times -- by the Broncos, Miami and Tampa Bay.
"I have confidence in our entire football team," Smith said. "Brian is a part of that. After you have a loss like that, we all feel bad. We should."
And Smith realizes something needs to change -- quickly.
At 1-2, the Bears are certainly not living up to those soaring expectations after last season's Super Bowl appearance. Besides Grossman's struggles, injuries are mounting.
They lost former Pro Bowl safety Mike Brown and starting nose tackle Dusty Dvoracek to season-ending knee injuries in the opener at San Diego. And on Sunday, Bears were falling like dominoes.
Linebacker Lance Briggs (groin), cornerback Nathan Vasher (groin) and defensive tackle Tommie Harris (knee) all left the game with injuries. Offensive lineman Ruben Brown suffered what was announced as a game-ending ankle injury, although he returned near the end.
"All of these injuries we're evaluating right now," Smith said. "I can't give you anything else."
As for the evaluation at quarterback, Grossman's troubles are well-documented and they explain why the Bears let him enter this season with an expiring contract rather than an extension.
He was the NFC Offensive Player of the Month last September. Now, he may not be the starting quarterback when September ends.
There certainly is blame to pass around, but the focus is on the quarterback.
The Bears were hoping Grossman would play the way he did the first five weeks last season and ditch the inconsistency he showed the rest of the way.
Well, he is more consistent.
The problem is "Bad Rex" keeps lining up behind center, and that's bad news for the Bears.
Smith stuck with Grossman last season, but that leash appears to be growing shorter with each pass into double or triple coverage; there were a few of those on Sunday night.
Like the one that Anthony Henry picked off early in the fourth quarter.
Dallas' Nick Folk had just kicked a 44-yard field goal when Grossman tried to hit Muhsin Muhammad in triple coverage. Henry intercepted and ran it back 28 yards for a touchdown that made it 27-10 and put away the Bears.
Grossman didn't get much help.
"All the way around the whole offense, it was one of those days where it seemed like we'd get something going and it'd fall back, and we just couldn't get anything going," wide receiver Bernard Berrian said.
Week 4:
Sunday, Sept. 23
» Green Bay at Minnesota, 1 p.m. ET (FOX)
» Baltimore at Cleveland, 1 p.m. ET (CBS)
» Chicago at Detroit, 1 p.m. ET (FOX)
» St. Louis at Dallas, 1 p.m. ET (FOX)
» Oakland at Miami, 1 p.m. ET (CBS)
» N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1 p.m. ET (CBS)
» Houston at Atlanta, 1 p.m. ET (CBS)
» Seattle at San Francisco, 4:05 p.m. ET (FOX)
» Tampa Bay at Carolina, 4:05 p.m. ET (FOX)
» Pittsburgh at Arizona, 4:15 p.m. ET (CBS)
» Denver at Indianapolis, 4:15 p.m. ET (CBS)
» Kansas City at San Diego, 4:15 p.m. ET (CBS)
» Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 8:15 p.m. ET (NBC)
Monday, Sept. 24
» New England at Cincinnati, 8:30 p.m. ET (ESPN)

Cedric Benson managed 46 yards after running for 101 the previous week in a 20-10 victory over Kansas City.
A wide-open Berrian dropped what might have been a 35-yard touchdown pass. And Muhammad seemed to stop on a deep route over the middle on the first play of the second quarter, resulting in an interception for Henry.
Smith called it "bad timing between the quarterback and receiver."
Although fans booed and chanted for Griese, teammates continued to support Grossman.
"Rex is my guy. Rex is my guy until the end," tight end Desmond Clark said. "He didn't have his greatest game (Sunday), but if you ask me Rex is my guy."
But for how much longer?
"We're talking a lot about Rex, and I guess we should," Smith said. "I would talk about our football team. I made a lot of mistakes yesterday. We all did. That was a team loss. ... You can't give a quarterback all the blame."
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

[Pvt.Dirt]

Originally Posted by dansdarkside

Note: I said that at least a couple weeks before he got hurt. Not once did I say that it was going to be due to injury or skill.

Then tell me, what is it due to? Skill determines a large part of how a player does. He would have gotten passed to plenty of times to have a huge year.

On the most part I agree with Death. Don't claim you're right about him not doing anything this year when he hasn't even played.

[dansdarkside]

Originally Posted by Pvt.Dirt

Then tell me, what is it due to? Skill determines a large part of how a player does. He would have gotten passed to plenty of times to have a huge year.

On the most part I agree with Death. Don't claim you're right about him not doing anything this year when he hasn't even played.

I will admit I was wrong on the TO thing, seeing as how he has 300 odd yards already.

I don't think it really ****ing matters right now, Fact is, I said he was going to do nothing, and he did nothing. It does not matter if he got hurt or not, HE DID NOTHING and I was right on that part.

As an example(an extreme one, but an example) You think the people in Vegas would have gotten there money back if they bet on the Bears and their whole D got hurt in the pregame? You ****ing retards.

[murqq]

but you claimed terry glenn to be a hasbeen before he was hurt THINKING he was gonna play this season which does mean you meant he was gonna play this year AND suck..nothin about injuries

[dansdarkside]

I said he was going to do nothing, He didn't and will not do anything, No matter the meaning of what I said.

In my example those people that bet on the bears where THINKING that the Bears D would play, But they all got hurt, so they are *** out. Would they still have to pay the bookie though? I think so.