Socom 3 NEEDS ranked respawns

[-ActionJackson-]

you hit the nail right on the head DirtyShooter

and congratulations to those who reply with their BS without taking the time to read.

[WARLOCK]

Originally Posted by -ActionJackson-

At the risk of being flamed for my thoughts on ranked repsawns, I have written sort of a rant that I have felt was necessary to post since the patch that eliminated ranked respawn games. Please feel free to comment, respectfully of course and please read the entire post before commenting.

I'm going to flat out admit it, I have lost an edge for Socom since Zipper has taken away the ranked respawn rooms. As I continued to play Socom, I actually began to enjoy respawn games and even moreso than regular games. What was once my favorite game that I could not go more than 1 day playing, has been put on the backburner for other games. I prefered to play respawn games because there is more action and for the simple fact that I don't have to wait around til the next round to fight again.

With the huge popularity of the ranked respawn rooms, I am shocked that Zipper has not taken this as a sign that maybe respawn games need some sort of ranked system. What fun is it playing for nothing? Why even play at all? I go into an unranked respawn room and its filled with guys who have absolutely no idea how to play and have probably just purchased this game. And that is assuming the rooms can even fill up because nobody wants to play in an unranked room.

It seems to me that respawn games for Zipper were just a random option thrown into the game with no real effort to build upon it and make it better for us who prefer respawn games. A perfect example of that would be the horrible spawn points on small maps. It is almost impossible to avoid spawn camping, and the Terrorist usually have the advantage to spawn camp on most levels which makes it worse. It actually discourages players from wanting to play on a certain side depending on the map.

I know there will be many people who will claim that respawn games are cheating and that they do not show any real skill. At times they can become rank up games, this is true, however as someone who has over 500 games played in ranked respawn rooms (why lie?), its no secret that ranked respawn rooms destroy your rank rather than level up. To me, this was not important as my stats were still being recorded and I knew I was playing for something. And for the most part, I still had to earn my score.

Now my solution to having ranked respawn games is to have a separate ladder for normal games and respawn games. That way there isn't an urge for everyone to play respawn games in hopes of ranking up. Randomize the spawn points for all players, that way most spawn camping will be eliminated and players will actually have to use their skills to win. I have no problem with having 2 ranking systems if it means both styles of play are catered to, rather than eliminating all excitement for one end.

I've felt the need to post this since the last patch, I ask that Zipper re-think working ranked respawns into its game while also improving upon spawn locations.

I ask that you guys do not turn this into a flame war as I would like all comments to be mature.

I am not even sure if Zipper reads this but as a fan of respawn games, I ask that you please bring some excitement into the other aspect of your online play.

Give us a ranking system for respawn games!

Am I the only one that feels this way?

having read threads such as "i'm tired of ???", or "zipper should ???" and all the other absolute dumbsh!T posts i've read here on this board, i can say without a shadow of a doubt, YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE DUMBEST DOUSCHEBAG TO EVER POST ANYWHERE ON THIS ENTIRE SITE!

besides the fact that you want a glitch incorporated as a normal game mode, you think it would be a GOOD idea!

think about this for just a second. regular respawns are full of people who spawn snipe, spawn camp. and just play like pricks in general. then you want to make those games ranked??? listen for the "POP" man, listen for the "POP"!

me and about 1 million other members of this website would like you to take this oppurtunity to sit down, pull your head out of your rectal opening, and THINK about what you've just proposed. once you've done, that come back and tell us how stupid you were and how you fvcked up.

[Sparkplug1990]

Warlock and ProudFighter, you need to quite being ignorant. Did you actually read his ENTIRE post, he stated a bunch of reasons how this would not be considered a glitch with the addition of another ladder. He didn't come in here and post total garbage, he posted with nice grammer, and took the time to think up a really good argument. It was nicely organized, and yet you people act like jackass's.

I think this is a great idea, with the addition of a new ladder or scoring system. It would take a while and might not work right to start. Although, I think if Zipper took the time and perfected the ranked respawn ladder, it could make the game better. You can always be right in the action, but its not for nothing. Nice Idea bro, really well thought out.

[PipeBombGK1]

I have read the whole opening post and I understand what you mean, but it just defeats the whole purpose of the ranking system that we had since the original Socom.

Listen if you want to play respawn and let it count to your rank, go meet up with Command3r sometime in Halo 2 then we'll see if you want to play respawn anymore.

[Tom-Foolery]

All it is is spawn camping, thats how they get thier rank.

[Dionysus]

Dont complain about spawn camping.
If this were to actually happen, they would be smarter with spawn points, like placing them randomly around a spawn, having them constantly change, or just letting people spawn anywhere on the map, more like Halo (I think...)

[pok it is me]

i actualy thought when i got the game that ranked respawns were part of it 'couse my mik didnt work for like the first 4 months' but i did like them and no i never camped'except 2 times when the other guys were glitching out side the map' i know the room was a glitched room but think about it like this yes u get ur rank up fast but for every camper the risk is stillthier for them also + the only reason peaple get camped is becouse they get angry and stay in the same room so if u get camped more than 3 times u are a goof for staying and letting it happen. also having the ranked respawns was just another addition to the gaming experiance i know peps will say this and that about how ur a noob and stuff like that for playin RR but i dont care since i played rr games like respawn games and i didnt camp. so would i like to see them agian yes and a diferent ladder system would be nice to plus whyt ***** about ranked respawns when zipper hasent evem fixed the top 100 or so players or the' glitched tags and names wich i dont consider a biggie so every1 complained about the rr games and got them removed but wat has it changed peaple still rank up and the rank is still screwed hell i played 13 streight winning games the other day and it still hasent showed on my rank well thats just my thoughts

[-..HyBriD..-]

Originally Posted by -ActionJackson-

At the risk of being flamed for my thoughts on ranked repsawns, I have written sort of a rant that I have felt was necessary to post since the patch that eliminated ranked respawn games. Please feel free to comment, respectfully of course and please read the entire post before commenting.

I'm going to flat out admit it, I have lost an edge for Socom since Zipper has taken away the ranked respawn rooms. As I continued to play Socom, I actually began to enjoy respawn games and even moreso than regular games. What was once my favorite game that I could not go more than 1 day playing, has been put on the backburner for other games. I prefered to play respawn games because there is more action and for the simple fact that I don't have to wait around til the next round to fight again.

With the huge popularity of the ranked respawn rooms, I am shocked that Zipper has not taken this as a sign that maybe respawn games need some sort of ranked system. What fun is it playing for nothing? Why even play at all? I go into an unranked respawn room and its filled with guys who have absolutely no idea how to play and have probably just purchased this game. And that is assuming the rooms can even fill up because nobody wants to play in an unranked room.

It seems to me that respawn games for Zipper were just a random option thrown into the game with no real effort to build upon it and make it better for us who prefer respawn games. A perfect example of that would be the horrible spawn points on small maps. It is almost impossible to avoid spawn camping, and the Terrorist usually have the advantage to spawn camp on most levels which makes it worse. It actually discourages players from wanting to play on a certain side depending on the map.

I know there will be many people who will claim that respawn games are cheating and that they do not show any real skill. At times they can become rank up games, this is true, however as someone who has over 500 games played in ranked respawn rooms (why lie?), its no secret that ranked respawn rooms destroy your rank rather than level up. To me, this was not important as my stats were still being recorded and I knew I was playing for something. And for the most part, I still had to earn my score.

Now my solution to having ranked respawn games is to have a separate ladder for normal games and respawn games. That way there isn't an urge for everyone to play respawn games in hopes of ranking up. Randomize the spawn points for all players, that way most spawn camping will be eliminated and players will actually have to use their skills to win. I have no problem with having 2 ranking systems if it means both styles of play are catered to, rather than eliminating all excitement for one end.

I've felt the need to post this since the last patch, I ask that Zipper re-think working ranked respawns into its game while also improving upon spawn locations.

I ask that you guys do not turn this into a flame war as I would like all comments to be mature.

I am not even sure if Zipper reads this but as a fan of respawn games, I ask that you please bring some excitement into the other aspect of your online play.

Give us a ranking system for respawn games!

Am I the only one that feels this way?

I like you're idea actually. However I've always perfered regular rooms to respawn... Its always been a personal preferance. This is why I don't play HALO or Mech Warrior anymore. I think ladder is a good idea. Instead of having clan matches you should be able to have 1v1 tournaments online. Like say if you just loaded socom up you could choose 1v1 ladder/respawn/round game. Stuff like that. And then seperate stats for each ladder.

**EDIT**
And to those who are bashin this guy for his opinion. Do everyone here with half a brain a favor and just stfu. His opinion is just as good as your's, and doesn't deserve being flamed.

[Me_out]

Ranked respawns would be a waste of time. You would get spawned camped.

[JSTAB]

Originally Posted by Spike009

that would be like a rank up room, you know how many people would have high ranks if there were a respawn ranked room...WOW..it would be a problems I promise that..

you guys are retarded...if you read his post thoroughly, it says that if ranked respawn games were introduced, there should be two SEPERATE ladders: one for regular ranked games, and one for ranked respawn. This would mean that you would have 2, let me say it again: TWO SEPERATE RANKS!!! THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUE WITH PEOPLE PLAYING SOLEY RESPAWN HAVING THE BEST RANKS AS THEIR RANKS WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE REGULAR RANKED LADDER.

As of my opinion, I strongly agree with the author of this thread. Like just about every other online game there is, SOCOM 3 should have ranked respawn, AS WELL AS regular round-style ranked games. With two seperate ladders and two seperate ranks for each type of ranked games, there would be absolutely no problems in the online world, just a little more work for Zipper, but if Zipper plans on keeping its fanbase, I suggest they look into doing a LITTLE MORE WORK.