Terrell Owens

[kevin1927z]

I think he acts like a 12 year old who wants too much attention.

[The mOBSCENE]

Originally Posted by kevin1927z

I think he acts like a 12 year old who wants too much attention.

Most NFL players act this same way. Too much money clouds their vision and the shroud known as the dark side begins to take over. Thus why most college football is better. Most of the players there are not getting paid, but are working their a55es off to make it to the pro's. Then they turn into little whinny b!tches once they make it there.

I personally don't like him because he complains about not making enough money when he makes more than most in the NFL right now. He gets paid too much money for something that really is not worth that much at all. There needs to be pay cuts all around the NFL and kept that way so that if the players want to play, they will have to deal with it because there would be no way they are getting more.

Whatever happened o the good NFL players only making about 100K a year to play? Whatever happened to that amount being a good price? The old school days were the best.

[Kowboy]

Well..

If you had that much money, so much money that your insurance payments on your "whips and rides" is probably more than what we pay a month for our mortgage/rent, you would probably be arrogant as well.


Yes, college ball is enjoyable, not only because they aren't playing for cash, and they're breaking a sweat just to try to make it to the nfl, but a lot of them are playing just for the love of the game, that's what sports are about.

As far as T.O goes, **** him

[AGuyWithaGun]

Originally Posted by The mOBSCENE

Most NFL players act this same way. Too much money clouds their vision and the shroud known as the dark side begins to take over. Thus why most college football is better. Most of the players there are not getting paid, but are working their a55es off to make it to the pro's. Then they turn into little whinny b!tches once they make it there.

I agree with about 85/90% of this paragraph. A friend of mine and myself always argue about college kids getting paid. He's of the mindset that these kids are putting their body/lives at risk and thus deserve money for doing so. He does have a very valid point. However, being one that did not pursue learning into college, I'm of the mindset that the fact they are in college getting a higher education is an immense amount of payment. I would consent to some form of an allowance though. I mean afterall, the colleges, major t.v. companies, and boosters are making bank (come on, you can't tell me they aren't) off these young men and there would be nothing wrong, imo, to give these young men (and women who are scholastic athletes for that matter) some money to live on. Not because they are "putting their lives at risk" so much as the fact that juggling studies/athletics/ AND a job is tough.

Where I don't agree with you is the fact that all college athletes become whiney when they turn pro. There are many that do not whine and even take paycuts to stay with a team to help out.

[/quote]I personally don't like him because he complains about not making enough money when he makes more than most in the NFL right now. He gets paid too much money for something that really is not worth that much at all. There needs to be pay cuts all around the NFL and kept that way so that if the players want to play, they will have to deal with it because there would be no way they are getting more.[/quote]

I applaud you for at least stating reasons for your dislike of T.O., and I agree that he is indeed making more than most right now. However, where I disagree with you is the fact if you look at it from a point of view as a team owner. In that you want to A). put butts in the seat, and B). win, then what T.O. does can be duplicated by a handful of other recievers at this point in time. That is not a knock on any other reciever in the league. I mean after all, you make to the NFL then you have indeed accomplished something. But the explosiveness that Terrell can provide a team ...it's borderline unbelievable. Again, no disrespect, but you can't lump T.O. in the same group as your Freddy Mitchell's of the league. While I may not personally like his actions off the field, on the field is an entirely different story. His work ethic on the field (again...look at his sunday play...not the monday-saturday sportscenter coverage) is among the best and as I've already stated, he provides an explosiveness that can be duplicated by few at that position.

[/quote]Whatever happened o the good NFL players only making about 100K a year to play? Whatever happened to that amount being a good price? The old school days were the best.[/quote]

Sorry :( lol, I have no response for this one...except for the fact that for the most part, the men that play football got BSF (bigger, stronger, faster). I try not to dwell on excess of the league, but the enjoyment I get from watching a sport I throughly enjoy.

[ASSASSIN00]

Nope...i dont think any1 likes sissy boys...i hope T.O. has fun sittin the rest of the season

[The mOBSCENE]

Originally Posted by AGuyWithaGun

I agree with about 85/90% of this paragraph. A friend of mine and myself always argue about college kids getting paid. He's of the mindset that these kids are putting their body/lives at risk and thus deserve money for doing so. He does have a very valid point. However, being one that did not pursue learning into college, I'm of the mindset that the fact they are in college getting a higher education is an immense amount of payment. I would consent to some form of an allowance though. I mean afterall, the colleges, major t.v. companies, and boosters are making bank (come on, you can't tell me they aren't) off these young men and there would be nothing wrong, imo, to give these young men (and women who are scholastic athletes for that matter) some money to live on. Not because they are "putting their lives at risk" so much as the fact that juggling studies/athletics/ AND a job is tough.

If you think of it this way, most college football players make it to college through a football scholarship. Think of that as their "allowance." :P Technically, they are playing football because they want to and they want the oppertunity to make it big, there is no reason to pay them. Like I said, they get a free ride through college, that should be more than enough for their payment. Once money gets thrown into the matter, then some players will start complaining about not making more than other players that don't deserve as much. It always happens because money, sadly, runs everything.

[+Evan]

The NFL is sort of becoming like Star Wars. There's the dark side (Players who complain about money and s**t.) and the other side( People who just play and don't complain.). For all we know, T.O will be like Darth Vader...

He is a good player, but he needs to just shut the f**k up and play. And that comment about him rather having Brett Farve start, it's good in SOME ways. The Packers aren't winning not because of Farve, but because of a lot of injuries and they're losing alot of starters.

I hate how people completely blame it all on Farve. Give him a break...

[AGuyWithaGun]

Originally Posted by The mOBSCENE

If you think of it this way, most college football players make it to college through a football scholarship. Think of that as their "allowance." :P Technically, they are playing football because they want to and they want the oppertunity to make it big, there is no reason to pay them. Like I said, they get a free ride through college, that should be more than enough for their payment. Once money gets thrown into the matter, then some players will start complaining about not making more than other players that don't deserve as much. It always happens because money, sadly, runs everything.

I'm pretty positive there is a set amount of scholarships that go out for football. And given the large amount of players on a team, (it's like what? some sixty plus) then not every player on the team gets a scholarship. I will agree with you though that the college players are doing it more as a "labor of love." But please read carefully as to what I said in my previous post.

I absolutely acknowledge the fact that getting a free ride through college is a great "payment". But you can't sit there and tell me that colleges are not making money off of scholastic athletes. And when I say scholastic athlete's, I'm encompassing the whole roster...from women's field hockey to football.
A). They get air time on major networks. B). In your more prominent sports, such as football for example, teams that make it to major bowls and or championship games get what....a wad of cash. Now, again, the young men and women are NOT doing it for the reason of wealth, BUT, if the college is going to prosper, why not help out the one's that are allowing them to do so? That's what I'm getting at. I'm not saying that they get payment enough to make a down payment on a new car or something. I'm talking enough money to sustain them throughout the week so they can properly eat and pay for other day to day activities..(your gas/doctor visits and such). You say you yourself are in college atm...I'm sure you know what I mean when I say that the average full-time college students schedule is somewhat hectic by nature. Without the sports. Now imagine someone that has to report to an atheletic department every day for some six to eight hours, (hell when I played in h.s. practice lasted four hours a day) after a long day of classes, only to get home to have to study, then get a minmal amount of sleep, and wake up and do it all again the next day. Now imagine the really dedicated that don't have the luxury of a somewhat wealthy family having to go out and work to be able to sustain themselves in all of this madness. Or the one's that DIDN'T get a scholarship and have to work a job during the school year and two in the summer just to be able to pay and attend the college.
All while playing sports for the college.

Keep in mind a few things. When I say scholastic athletes should get an "allowance" I mean ALL scholastic athletes...if you go to college on a track and field scholarship or make it on the team as a walk on even, then you should be compensated for the time (think of football..giving up weekends, film study, training, practice, THEN the game) and money you are giving to that college.
Or if you like, I can put it like Lu told me. Think of it in military terms where you get paid per diem for going over seas/living off base to offset housing costs.


Sorry about the length and derailment and I'm almost done lol.

About T.O. The way the media took the Brett Farve comment and ran with it is so ...so...WRONG. The general jist that I got out of that comment and the way he said it was the fact that he is on a team where the qb is less than 100%. I like Mcnabb, and I think he has great upside. I commend and respect him for what he's doing in light of the injuries he's having to deal with at present time. But give me a break. Have any of you been watching this season? Some of the passes he's attempted have SO obviously been off the mark because of the pain he's playing through. All T.O. was saying is that if he had Farve as a qb (in other words a qb that has talent, which mcnabb does, AND is 100%) then the Eagles record would not be what it is at the present time. Also let's not forget that Terrell DID NOT INITIATE those comments. He was agreeing with Irvin who was the first person to say the comment in question.

As far as some of his other actions? Like the fight in the locker room and such, yes...those are ******** type actions that a grown, professional athlete should not do and it is a detriment to the team. All in all, off the field T.O. is a man unto himself and he will have to answer and or deal with his actions when the time comes. On the field...I want that man on MY team.

Edited note:
Anthrax's last comment...about giving Farve a break and his team being desimated by injuries. 500% true my friend. You cannot blame Farve for the teams bad luck this season. It happens from time to time.

[Dynastar197]

First of all, NFL football is completley awsome. So is College football. They are both equally awsome. You cant let the financial side of pro football cloud the way you look at it. Who doesnt want to watch the best of the best? Thats what these guys are! They are the absolutley best at what they do. How is that not exciting to watch? I mean, the stuff that these guys do just blows my mind somtimes, they are amazing. Yes, NFL players get paid a temendous ammount of money, but c'mon this is 2005! Think about how much money is spent elsewhere in the media in a rediculous fashion. So much is involved around these guys and the game they play. Why not give them obscene amounts of money?

[+Evan]

I know. Every day in the Sports Paper, I always hear "Farve ruins team!" Or some other stupid false comment on Farve. STOP BLAMING FARVE YOU DUMB*SSES!

If you guys are gonna blame Farve ruining the Packers, then you can blame McNabb fro destroying the Eagles' season, Corey Dillon for helping ruin the Patriots season, or Daunte Culpepper for decapitating the Vikings hopes.

F*cking hipocrites.