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Old 08-31-2005   #11
 
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haha my grammar sucks... its probly cuz im stressed and its 2 am....
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This is 100% true. People get their violent ways from watching tv pretty much, not video games.

lol I like that a lot.VVPAMAVAV. Its funny, but too long. And we should do it, except too many mothers. And this is making me think too hard. lol

They shouldn't be dumb enough to buy their kids M for mature games.

Example of this:

An 86 year old grandma bought her 14 year old grandson GTA:San Andreas and after hearing about it being rerated to AO, she sued Rockstar. It's her fault that her grandson is playing this violence, not rockstar's.

Here's some advice to mothers: If your going to get a game for your childred, see what the rating is. Don't let your children make up some really stupid thing up.

What morons....
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haha my grammar sucks... its probly cuz im stressed and its 2 am....
That another reason your stressed go to bed your moron


On the topic I would say that mothers have the right to not buy games for there children that are 16 and below. 16 should be the mature limit (although most still are not) because 12 year olds and 13 and 14 year old kids think they are the **** on the internet it wrecks the game.
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You know why this is? Because a few kids ruined it for the rest of us. That's right. Those kids that shoot up their school or stab somebody and then blame their actions on video games.

These mothers need to realize that it is not video games that cause violence, but upbringing. Abuse, argument, violence, etc in the house that originate from the parents predispose the child to violence.
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Ok this is coming from a Father that lets his daughter play video games and some of which can be violent. It's like this, the parents are the ones at fault for there bad grades, emotional unstability and any problems that can be classified as violent. If I'm not wrong, it has been proven that violent behavior is passed on in genes from there parents. If the father is violent then the kids will be, seeing that environment does play key role as well. If the parents want to blame video games for there horrid parenting so be it. Because they will never stop the sale of these games see that it is still a free country with a freedom of speech. The day that the government tells me how to raise my kids is the day I’ll stop paying taxes. The way I see it is, they think they know what is best for me, is the day I feel like they don’t get my money. Also all the mothers are really doing is blowing wind up each others a$$es. They want solve anything, all they will do is alienate there kids from society even more, and cause them to want to get even some way or another. I would like to say that the two kid at Columbine started off as alienated kids from the get go by there parents. These parents are freaking crazy see that us the next generation is going to run this place when there wearing adult diapers and draining my social security. I’m a republican and I can about guarantee that most of these damn protests come from the democratic side of the fence. Cause those damn democrats can’t seem to keep there noses out of my life. This subject is something that causes me great grief seeing that this wasn’t what the forefathers foreseen for us when they wrote the constitution of the United States. There is a need for freedom of speech but there is also a need for people to stay out of each others lives. I’ll shot a fool trying to come into my house to confiscate all my games and gaming systems. This is something I’ll spend the rest of my life in jail over. Is that violent enough for you MAVAV, and this is coming from an adult with a family. So be it MAVAV your major problem, but just don’t see it yet. Instead of ruling your kids free time, why don’t you spend time with. How about you sit down and watch them play the game. I can understand a game of sexual nature, which I would never let my daughter play. But I think I can justify a way to classify most games out there violent.
Mario games: You jump on turtles and such. This seems a little violent towards turtles now doesn’t it.Metroid games: Yet again your running around shot and blasting monsters way.

Each game I can think of out there that gets played has a some sort of violence in it. But it’s a matter of you parents telling your kids why this wrong to do in a real life situations. If they can play the game then there old enough to understand. My daughter does and she also knows what the consequences are for do these types of things.

If my daughter was out side jumping around on top of a turtle I’d scold her for here actions. She also knows what guns are and that they can kill, and she also grasps the concept of death. I can’t say my daughter is perfect but I do know what she is doing at all times, with out invading her privacy.

Well sorry for the drawn out speech but I do hope you people read what I wrote, and not just skim over it, because I do share some good insight and information.
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If I'm not wrong, it has been proven that violent behavior is passed on in genes from there parents. If the father is violent then the kids will be, seeing that environment does play key role as well.
Sorry to say you are wrong. There is a slight possibility that the predisposition to violence, through certain chemical inbalances in the brain, can be passed on but it is not likely. If the parent is violent or abusive due to previous trauma or outside forces, the child will not be the same. The main way that violence is passed down is through example. Children are very impressionable and will imitate other people, so if they experience violence and abuse from their parents from an early age they see it as normal and something that is necessary, often causing them to develop this behavior later on.
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If I'm not wrong, it has been proven that violent behavior is passed on in genes from there parents. If the father is violent then the kids will be, seeing that environment does play key role as well.
Sorry to say you are wrong. There is a slight possibility that the predisposition to violence, through certain chemical inbalances in the brain, can be passed on but it is not likely. If the parent is violent or abusive due to previous trauma or outside forces, the child will not be the same. The main way that violence is passed down is through example. Children are very impressionable and will imitate other people, so if they experience violence and abuse from their parents from an early age they see it as normal and something that is necessary, often causing them to develop this behavior later on.
I was a bit wrong by what your saying, but you still basically say the same thing I was tring to get across. That being, "It's not the video games about a pre-exsiting problem."

Ok here are some quotes I found while researching:

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'Aggressive parents often have aggressive children, but people who conclude that aggression is learnt from parents in a "cycle of violence" never consider the possibility that violent tendencies could be inherited,
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'violence is part of an historical process and is not natural or born of biological determinism'. According to Pinker, violence 'is part of our design'.
Found at this site:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/scien...796600,00.html
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I have seen a kid that has never owned a video game system bully kids. I have seen the most avid videogamers (who play shooters) get straight A's and help other people. The videogames are just there. They aren't causing kids to do anything except pay money for the games. These mothers need to get off of the weed/speed/crack/hormones and lay off. Also, if a mother tells their kid that they can't do this or that or can't play this game, the kid is going to want to do it even more. The kid is going to play the game over a friend's house or is going to do something to get back at the mom. The MAVAV needs to lay off and mind their own damn buisness.

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Violence is everywhere. If there was suddenly a shortage of food, and a kid was hungry, they would probably shoot an animal of some sort so they can eat. Shooting an animal is violent. Like bigmike said, violence is part of human nature.
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For people who say kids imitate everything and video games make them imitate killing people, why don't you restrict them from TV all together? Remember the Disney movie Peter Pan? Captain Hook had a sword, gun, and cannon that he used against Peter and his child friends. Sure, a 5 yr. old kid will imitate Hook by swinging a stick or something around, but I doubt he will pick up a live pistol and shoot one of his friends. By age 5, a child should know what death is, and who his friends are. I've seen a news story about a 5 yr. old getting hold of his dad's glock and killing his best friend. If your child is 5 and doesn't know a gun will freakin' kill his friend so he can never be around again, that is either very bad parenting or a mentally diseased child.
This Mothers Against Violence crap is just that, crap. Instead of focusing on the games, focus on parenting skills and how to inform your kids that what's on TV is fiction and not to be reproduced in real life (talking about cartoons here). People won't magically come back alive if you cry hard enough or if you say you are sorry. These retarded mothers are spending all their time discussing things that won't help while ignoring the most important thing, family.
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You know why this is? Because a few kids ruined it for the rest of us. That's right. Those kids that shoot up their school or stab somebody and then blame their actions on video games.

These mothers need to realize that it is not video games that cause violence, but upbringing. Abuse, argument, violence, etc in the house that originate from the parents predispose the child to violence.
I know this is not cool to laugh at but I was laughing.


But yeah im glad my mom doesnt make me wear a helmet or anything or never cross the street.


I know this sounds gay but all of us are mostly men/ boys. And if WE ( meaning men ) birthed children I think I would care about what he/she does and what stuff he looks at on the internet but that would be if I was woman.
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