Newbie Questions

[OTTER]

That was a pretty lame attempt at getting across the censor....just say screw up....




Try ALL different kinds of fighting styles, even sniping, and dont just try em for one or two rounds, try a few games with one. Then you can see what you like. Information on the certain type of sniper rifles to use, camping guns, stealthy guns, can be found via a search.

[Angus]

Since you are a noob i got one tip do not RANK UP.

[OTTER]

Yea do not go into those rooms...they r evil


And uhh...coming from you ak105...aren't you in the Zoo Keepers clan....I mean....40 or w/e rosters they have n well over half of them are rank uppers...lol...yea.

Just found it kinda odd

[Angus]

Did I not also say that I left a long time ago>?

[Scuba Steve]

All I have to say on the question, is go into a respawn room and use every gun available. If you still need a gun, use the M16A2. If you start off with that gun, you will be unstopable in the long run.

Ak105er, if you are judging peoples ranks on their stats, then you do not deserve to be a captain.

[MysticalBum]

if i'm rushing i usualy go with the m14 (i love its stopping power).
and also if ur rushind u normaly dont need ur pistol so set ur nades to quick 2 so u can pull them out faster.

[cab9]

from http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/f...ii_weapons.txt

1a ASSAULT RIFLES AND MACHINE GUNS
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M4A1 (M4A1)
Volume: 5
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 6
Modes: All
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

All around gun, nothing special. Mediocre is all categories, use the RA-14
or IW-80 A2 since they are either better or the same in every category.

M4A1 SD (Suppressed M4A1)

Volume: 1
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 6
Modes: All
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

Same as the M4A1 but silenced. And yes this gun IS as strong as the
regular M4A1.

M4A1-M203 (M4A1 with an M203 attachment)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 4
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 6
Modes: All-M203
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

Same as the M4A1 but has a grenade laucher attachment. This has alot more
recoil than the normal M4A1.

M14 (M14)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 8
Recoil: 7
Fire Speed: 8
Modes: Single-Auto
Power: 8
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 20
Recommend firing range: Short to long

This gun is very powerful and deadly at close range since it kicks up
very quickly and allows easy headshots. I recommend taping the trigger
for long range shots. This gun kills in two hits to the vital areas and
more for the others.

M16A2 (M16A2)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 8
Recoil: 2
Fire Speed: 5
Modes: Single-Burst
Power: 5
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

The M16 is very accurate but very newbie unfriendly especially in S2
since headshots are now alot more vital for fast kills. Don't use
this gun unless your good at aiming.

M16A2-M203 (M16A2 with an M203 attachment)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 7
Recoil: 2
Fire Speed: 5
Modes: Single-Burst-M203
Power: 5
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

Same as the M12A2 but has a grenade launcher attachment.

IW-80 A2 (Enfield SA-80 IW)

Volume: 4
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 6.5
Modes: Single-Auto
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

This gun along with the RA-14 are my personal favourites, They both
provide good accuracy,low recoil, and still deal decent damage. Also
has a scope for sniping.

RA-14 (OC-14 Groza)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 4
Fire Speed: 6
Modes: All
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

this gun is pretty much the same as the IW-80 A2 but it seems a little
louder and more stable.

AK-105 (AK-105)

Volume: 6
Accuracy: 6
Recoil: 4
Fire Speed: 5
Modes: All
Power: 6
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

Nearly identical to the M4A1 but is louder and stronger. Reasonably good gun
since it's fairly strong and has medium recoil, the only thing I don't like
about this gun is the lack of a scope.

M63A (FN MAG)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 4
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 4
Modes: Auto
Power: 5
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 75
Recommend firing range: Short to Medium

High ammo capacity, Faster and more accurate then the M60E3
But a lot weaker. This gun getsan accuracy boost when in prone
position.

M60E3 (M60E3)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 3.5
Modes: Auto
Power: 7
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 100
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Similiar to the M63A but is alot stronger, I use this gun if I
plan on using a machine gun. This gun gets an accuracy boost when in
prone position.


1b SUB-MACHINE GUNS
===================

HK5 (MP5)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 8
Recoil: 2
Fire Speed: 7
Modes: All
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short=Long

This gun was king in S1 but is nerfed in S2 since it does very little
damage. Super accurate gun, not much else.

HK5 SD (MP5SD)

Volume: 1
Accuracy: 8
Recoil: 2
Fire Speed: 7
Modes: All
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short-Long

Same as the HK5 just silenced.

HK5K (MP5K)

Volume: 4
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 3
Fire Speed: 9
Modes: All
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short

Just a faster, more inaccurate HK5, sounds cool though :)

1c SNIPER RIFLES
================

*note* all Snipers rifles have 100% accuracy while in the scope,
all accuracy ratings shown below were tested while not in the scope.

SR-25 (Knight's SR-25)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 7
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 9
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 20
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

This sniper rifle is very good since it has little recoil and is
semi-automatic giving you better opportunities to kill multiple targets
I don't recommend using this gun if you are new to sniping because you
must be very skilled to use this gun effectively. This gun kills in two
hits to the vital areas and a few shots to the other areas.

SR-25 SD (Suppressed Knight's SR-25)

Volume: 2
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 7
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 9
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 20
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

Same as the SR-25 just silenced, I prefer this one over the regular SR-25
since they both do the same amount of damage but is silenced and allows you
to snipe and not have to relocate after firing a shot.

M40A1 (M40A1)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 10
Recoil: 7
Fire Speed: 1
Modes: Single
Power: 9
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 25
Recommend firing range: Long

Not a very good sniper rifle since its fairly weak for the rate that
it reloads, it is however very steady while in the scope just use the
M87ELR.

M87ELR (Sig Sauer SSG 3000 *Thanks to Mr Peeps for confirming this*)

Volume: 9
Accuracy: 10
Recoil: 10
Fire Speed: 1
Modes: Single
Power: 10
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 10
Recommend firing range: Long

Excellent sniper rifle, It will kill in one hit on all the vital areas
but not on places like the forearms, hands, lower legs, and feet.

1d SHOTGUNS
===========

12 Gauge Pump (Winchester 1300)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 8
Fire Speed: 1
Modes: Single
Power: Varies upon range
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 8
Recommend firing range: Short

This gun is good if you dont miss, dont fire while running.

1e HANDGUNS
===========

Mark 23 (HK Mark 23)

Volume: 3
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 8
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 12
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Awesome handgun, improved alot in S2. This gun kills in 2 hits.

Mark 23 SD (Suppressed HK Mark 23)

Volume: 1
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 6
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 12
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Same as the Mark 23 but silenced and weaker.

9mm Pistol (Suppressed HK P9S)

Volume: 1
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 9
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Weak pistol, if you want a silenced pistol use the Mark 23 SD.

M11

Volume: 3
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 15
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Inferior to the Mark 23 and SP-10, don't use it.

SP-10

Volume: 4
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 8
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 18
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Identical to the Mark 23.

1f EQUIPMENT
============

M67

Basic grenade, this will hurl shrapnel in a wide radius giving it lots of
range.

HE Grenade

Small blast radius but will kill whatever it hits.

Mark141

Throw this in front of a target to blind it for like 20 seconds.

2x Ammo

Doubles your ammo.

Claymore

A small green directional mine that shoots marble sized balls in the
direction it is faced. Unlike the PMN Mines your detonate this yourself
via the detonator. Grenade and bullets can set these off and these
also have alot of range.

AN-M8

Basic smoke bomb, need I say more?

AT4-HEAT

A rocket launcher, You need to kneel in order to fire this. The explosion has
a large radius. Takes up 2 inventory slots

Thermal Scope

Use in combination with a sniper rifle, gives your scope thermal vision.

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2a ASSAULT RIFLES AND MACHINE GUNS
==================================

AK-47 (AK-47)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 6
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 5
Modes: All
Power: 6
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

Packs a strong punch and is accurate to boot only downfall is the lack of a
scope and is slower than most assault rifles.

AKS-74 (AKS-74/AKS-74U)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 5.5
Modes: All
Power: 5
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to long

Just like the AK-47 but uses smaller rounds so is slightly weaker, this is
made up for it's faster fire rate.

552 (SIG 552)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 5
Modes: All
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

Use only if you want a scope, other than that just use the AK-47/AKS-74.

552 SD (Suppressed SIG 552)

Volume: 1
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 5
Modes: All
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

Same as the 552 just silenced. This gun is very effective if you don't go
crazy spraying bullets everywhere, take your time and get good shots.
Don't use this gun if your a newbie.

M16A2 (M16A2)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 8
Recoil: 2
Fire Speed: 5
Modes: Single-Burst
Power: 5
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

The M16 is very accurate but very newbie unfriendly especially in S2
since headshots are now alot more vital for fast kills. Don't use
this gun unless your good at aiming.

M14 (M14)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 8
Recoil: 7
Fire Speed: 8
Modes: Single-Auto
Power: 8
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 20
Recommend firing range: Short to long

This gun is very powerful and deadly at close range since it kicks up
very quickly and allows easy headshots. I recommend taping the trigger
for long range shots. This gun kills in two hits to the vital areas and
more for the others.

STG 77 (Steyr Aug)

Volume: 4
Accuracy: 4
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 6
Modes: Single-Auto
Power: 5
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 30
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Very poor gun in accuracy and recoil, if you want a scoped
rifle use the 552.

M63A (FN MAG)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 4
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 4.5
Modes: Auto
Power: 5
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 75
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

High ammo capacity, Faster and more accurate then the M60E3
But a lot weaker. This gun getsan accuracy boost when in prone
position.

M60E3 (M60E3)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 4
Modes: Auto
Power: 7
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 100
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Similiar to the M63A but is alot stronger, I use this gun if I
plan on using a machine gun. This gun gets an accuracy boost when in
prone position.

2b SUB-MACHINE GUNS
===================

9mm Sub (Mini Uzi)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 7
Modes: All
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 60
Recommend firing range: Short

High ammo, very inaccurate but fast. Not a very good gun. Use only for
close range levels.

F90 (P90)

Volume: 5
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 7
Modes: All
Power: 2
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 50
Recommend firing range: Short

Fast, sort of accurate, but weak, not bad for a sub-machine gun.

2c SNIPER RIFLES
================

SASR (Dragunov SVD)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 3
Modes: Single
Power: 9
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 10
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

Almost identical to the SR-25, but it seems to fire faster and has
a little less recoil

M40A1 (M40A1)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 10
Recoil: 7
Fire Speed: 1
Modes: Single
Power: 9
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 25
Recommend firing range: Long

Not a very good sniper rifle since its fairly weak for the rate that
it reloads, it is however very steady while in the scope just use the M82A1A.

M82A1A (Barrett M82A1)

Volume: 9
Accuracy: 10
Recoil: 10
Fire Speed: 1
Modes: Single
Power: 10
Scope: Yes
Clip Ammo: 10
Recommend firing range: Long

Awesome sniper rifle, It will kill in one hit on all the vital areas
but not on places like the forearms, hands, lower legs, and feet.

2d SHOTGUNS
===========

M3 12 Gauge (Jackhammer Mk3A1)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 7
Fire Speed: 3
Modes: Single-Auto
Power: Varies upon range
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 12
Recommend firing range: Short

Extremely newbie friendly gun, Awesome for camping. Try not to fire while
moving because for some reason the pellet pread increases when you move.
Honestly I think they should remove this gun and make the TA 12 Gauge
useable for both sides.

TA 12 Gauge (Franchi SPAS12)

Volume: 7
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 6
Fire Speed: 2.5
Modes: Single
Power: Varies upon range
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 12
Recommend firing range: Short

Same as the M3 12 Gauge but only single shot, still fires fairly fast
(almost as fast as a pistol). Personally I like this shotgun more than the
M3 12 Gauge since I thikn the M3 is a cheap newbie weapon that is overused.
The TA 12 Gauge much like the 12 Gauge Pump requires skill to use since you
need to get very close to make use of it's power.

2e GRENADE LAUNCHERS
====================

M79

Volume: 2
Accuracy: Varies
Recoil: 1
Fire Speed: 1
Modes: Single
Power: 10
Scope: No
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

Grenade launcher that requires you to reload after every shot. I don't
recommend using this gun because you might get voted out of a game.

MGL

Volume: 2
Accuracy: Varies
Recoil: 1
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 10
Scope: No
Recommend firing range: Medium to long

Grenade launcher with a rotating thingy so you only need to reload after
the thingy is empty. Like the M79 I don't recommend this since you could
get voted off.

2f HANDGUNS
===========

M9

Volume: 3
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 13
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Crappy, move on.

F57 (FN Five-seven)

Volume: 3
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 20
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Same as above.


226

Volume: 3
Accuracy: 5
Recoil: 5
Fire Speed: 2
Modes: Single
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 15
Recommend firing range: Short to medium

Same as above.


DE.50 (Desert Eagle)

Volume: 8
Accuracy: 4
Recoil: 8
Fire Speed: 1.5
Modes: Single
Power: 9 ( 10 on chest)
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 7
Recommend firing range: Short

Now where talking, this gun will kill instantly anywhere on the chest, and
will kill in 2 hits on the limbs.

Model 18 (Glock 1

Volume: 3
Accuracy: 3
Recoil: 10
Fire Speed: 8
Modes: Single-Auto
Power: 1
Scope: No
Clip Ammo: 17
Recommend firing range: Short

High recoil makes this a mini-M14 with less power of course.

2g EQUIPMENT
============

M67

Basic grenade, this will hurl shrapnel in a wide radius giving it lots of
range.

HE Grenade

Small blast radius but will kill whatever it hits.

Mark141

Throw this in front of a target to blind it for like 20 seconds.

2x Ammo

Doubles your ammo.

PMN Mine

Pressure sensitive mine, try to hide it, when planting. The explosion is the
equivilant to a HE explosion so it doesn't have much range to it.

AN-M8

Basic smoke bomb, need I say more?

RPG

A rocket launcher, You need to kneel in order to fire this. The explosion
has a large radius. Takes up 2 inventory slots or 3 if you want 2 shots
instead of just 1.

Thermal Scope

Use in combination with a sniper rifle, gives your scope thermal vision.

ok, now how to shot, i always aim for uper chest/head with every gun. do that, it works and you kill people quicker. this won't be easy with every gun, you must learn to control each differnt guns recoil. you should do this in respawn, best place to learn new guns. you will probaly start off using the m14/m3 12 gauge as terrorist and the iw80 or ra-14 as seals. easiest guns. however, if you really want to excel in this game, learn to use the stg-77 or m16a2 for terrorist, it will be hard learning (mainly for the m16) but it'll pay off. those guns, for me, kill the best. also, for seals you should really learn to use the m4a1sd, best assualt weapon in the game. silent, accurate, little recoil, and uber deadly.

you may also wanna learn sniping, i love it. basicaly point shoot kill. to hit a moving target, aim a little in front of the guy, but still in your scope, then wait for him to pass the center of the cross hairs then pull the trigger.


happy shooting!
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[The mOBSCENE]

cab9, come on... did you REALLY have to quote the whole damn thing? thats just a hell of a lot of spam. just put the link up there and not the whole damn article... thats just a lot of page...
if you wouldnt mind, it would be helpful if you just go back and edit it when you get the chance...