Has Socom Become Too Conformative...Why?

all<addied>up · 11-04-2004

This may be a little more serious of a topic then usual but it is something that I would like to get peoples view on. I think that Socom has become too conformative because when I was reading another topic about Seals using m14s it hit me. Then I realized that one night I had played all night long and 90% of both the seals and terrorist where using the 14. I also did not see any snipers ALL NIGHT LONG. Socom has become a run and gun arcade game instead of a tactical multiplayer game. I have also noticed that not that many people are throwing grenades as much anymore. I mean I played Frostfire as a seal and just ran straight to the terrorist spawn every round. I just don't understand the seals using the M14 when they have such an arrangement of good weapons to choose from. I mean I only use the HK family of guns and sometimes, very rarely only when the lag gets so bad that no matter what I do I can't kill someone, I will use the RA-14.

Socom used to be an unbelievable game because of the people that played it. I mean you had the snipers which you had to watch out for, the people with mines and shotguns, the people who would throw grenades everywhere and anywhere and then pick up more, the run and gunners with the M14 and STG77. And there was always the random newb or frustrated player that would use the newb tube. I mean where has all of this gone.

That was just the terrorists what happened to the seals that would hide in bushes for two minutes and wait for the terrorist to come walking by or set up claymores and wait for someone. What happened to the run and gunners with the IW's being backed up by the snipers with the SP-10.

Basically what I am trying to say is that six months ago Socom was a better game than it is now. There is no mix of talent anymore it just who can control their M14 longest. Has everyone just gotten so sick of M14 bullets going through the person in front of you and killing you, being killed when behind an object because the M14 fires so fast and so long that it creates lag on the server, or being killed by 2 M14 bullets instead of 20 from another gun. Has all of this caused everyone to conform to one standard when playing SOCOM. If so that sucks.............

AL GIORDINO · 11-04-2004

Wellllll... since every Seal gun is a noob gun and camping is totally looked down upon, maybe you are right. I mean where does that leave us?

Seals using M14s and running and gunning.

But I don't really think so.

I will agree it seems that a hella lot of Seals use the M14 nowadays, but that's just in response to all the IW is a noobie gun crap. It might even things up a little bit, but I dunno, the team I'm on usually wins either way. M14 or IW.

Like you said, snipers too, seem in short supply. Personally I don't like sniping all that much, I'm sure other people feel the same. So maybe thats why. It's just more fun to have a assault rifle and be down in the trenches. But I don't think its really any different than 6 months ago.. It's not like 6 months ago there were 3 or 4 snipers per team.. it's just like it is now.. they've always been in short supply, when you think about it.

As for nades I don't know what your talking about at all. Nades are always one of the biggest dangers in Socom. I think it's ridiculous to say that nobody throws nades any more. That was obviously just the room you were in. And maybe those terrorists sucked so bad the rest of your team was feeling sorry for them and using M14s. I dunno.

What the hell room were you playing in anyway? Captains only with no bombs? Seriously. I think nades are always a huge threat. And it seems its mainly captains who are Seals using M14s. Most cookies and people who don't play all the time seem to use any gun they want when on Seals.

Unwritten Law · 11-04-2004

I remember that a while ago everyone would only use the M60 and i think socom is strting to go back to that but with the m14. I think there is always going to be a gun that the majority of people like and agree is the "best" gun but there are still alot of people that have enough skill/accuracy to use other guns besides the m14.

I personally dont use the m14 much mostly because everyone uses it and i think that there are different guns better for each situation. The m14 is a good gun but you shouldnt use it through an entire game for 10 games in a row. The are going to be those situations where a silenced gun or a sniper or a gun with a large clip is going to be better and sooner people realize that there are more guns than just the m14 the sooner there will be more diversity in guns.

All in all i agree with you but it will end eventually with another patch that will make another gun better so some people will switch to the ra-14 or the ak-47 (examples) but some people will stay loyal to the m14 or theyre favorite gun.

Im just rambling now but im just trying to say that people need to realize that there are alot of guns out the besides the m14 and different situations call for different guns.

Rigamortis87 · 11-08-2004

what in the flying hell are u guys talkin about..?

wtf ..i sometimes complain/gripe saying that we HAVE too many snipers on our time..and most of em are pure shite....

nades? OMG I SHALL SLAY U if u say they arent a factor..i hate being grenaded..omg..and i got fuuuuuuced up by em.

run and gun? bleh it depends..if they all snipe im comin for they arse with the automatics...

i snipe as well..

but im a versatile player i guess.

[shadow]ghost · 11-09-2004

Socom will be Socom ... people go threw trends ... maybe it was just the people with you playing like that all night. I dunno ... this almost sounds to me like some complaining about to brew up.

LuFeng · 11-09-2004

basically depends on the boards, some boards are more set up for runnin and gunnin, but its nice on certain areas to have atleast one sniper.only problem with that is if nobody is real good at snipin id rather them use an automatic so maybe they can atleast help get a kill than miss 3 or 4 shots trying to snipe someone.

on both sides using 14 it is a lil rediculous at times but oh well, its socom

all i do is shake my head when i see a seal using a 14, im sorry but that m4a1 is just as good.as terrorist the 14 is defenitly the best "rush" wep they have so i dont mind it.

and back to run and gun, i generally do that, i have a life and dont have hour after hour to just sit there and hold back every game, i like to get in, kill a few mutafikers and be done with it.

Wand3rer · 11-10-2004

agree@AL, but there's one problem:

What you say and what you do are two different things. Try to spot people saying "the M203 is great!" on the game instead of on a forum that only 1/100 of the socom population ever looks at... much less posts on. You won't see them for long, I guarantee it.

Personally I'll do what the fjuck ever is required to complete the mission. I score high usually so they rarely bother to bring it up until after the match when the other team whines at me.

Also as a sidenote:
- If you use the M203 or MGL or whatever, please know how to use it. I got teamkilled by an idiot in The Mixer while escorting all 3 VIPs and we all died in one thing because mister "WELP7" decided there was a tango following me.

aocfork · 11-12-2004

i have to agree with the original poster. the m14 is over used. get this... i was voted out of a game for sniping. they said i had to pick up an auto or be voted. i told them to screw off cuz i was the highest scoring person on the team. they voted me because while i was sniping on foxhunt... foxhunt i repeat, a terrorist ran to our spawn and killed the vips. they said if i would have had an automatic, i would of killed the 3 terrorists on top of seal hill before they killed the vips. i killed all three and ended up the last guy left, with all 3 charging me and one of them was sniping. but no, i hurt the team. this game has been the same since that night. i now know about multiple glitches on frostfire used to stop run and gunners. but that isnt the answer. what we all need to do here (not towards you other m14 users, cuz i know you are reading), us snipers, shotgunners, and smg users need to teach them a lesson. we take over a room, own the other team, and vote out any m14 user. they will be like wtf?!? and try the weapons we were owning with, and remember why we voted them out of the game for using an m14. then we go on to the next room. we bring socom back to the good ole days before even the first patch. we make it like it was then. no one knew which gun was good, experimenting was everywhere. we wont have the glitches of course, but we will have the fun of the game. thats all i have to say for right now...

PuNxCiCiDE4550 · 11-12-2004

i hate when people try to sound all smart...aww socom has become to conformative...aww all the teenagers today are conformists, everyones a ****ing comformist....hell i went to school one day wearing a skateboard logo and i got called a conformist...i go to school wearing a local bands t shirt...conformists...shut the **** up and play

Paulocas · 11-13-2004

Now you complain about the M14's? JESUS ****ING CHRIST...

What guns CAN we use?

Just pistols? Or wait if use DE or Model 18 you're gay?

If you don't throw a grenade you suck?

Get a god damn life. People who get so frustrated over a ****ing god damn game should follow these steps:
1. Pinch themselves
2. WAKE THE **** UP

because unfortunately you need a life!