Forza 3: no weather, night, or rally

[zero2000]

Very disappointed in Forza 3's damage model.

They were hyping it up because it was a pretty big feature that Forza 3 has over GT5. It was believed that Forza 3 would have a pretty detailed damage system, but now that the demo is out, it is apparent that it is very limited, rather unrealistic, and sometimes buggy.

YouTube - Forza Motorsport 3 - No "EPIC" Car Damage

A high collision crash results in a slightly dented front end, and the paint pretty much pops off the entirety of the car, even if it is no where near the impact zone. The damage isn't being simulated...Right when the cars collide the car model is just instantly swapped, regardless of the crash. There seems to also be no deformation of the car frame no matter how hard the crash is.

Also, it seems as if you bump into the right or left side of the rear of a car, both tail lights shatter.

Then there is this: YouTube - Forza 3: Demo - Car Can't Roll Back Over

I think the video speaks for itself.


Seems as if both Forza 3 and GT5 have limited damage models. PD have been showing off what they have so far for damage in GT5, although they have been stating that it is still a work in progress. I doubt it would get MUCH better than it is now, but the way they have it is this. Every car in the game will get surface scratches, minimal dents. Race cars (rally, nascar) will have more extensive damage models such as heavy dents, scratches, doors/hoods/bumpers being ripped off, etc.

The main argument against GT is that it is bumper cars, but the exact same can be said about Forza 3. There is never going to be an extensive damage system in SIMULATORS. Forza and GT is about racing, not crashing.

I just think that this has been one massive PR disaster for the guys at Turn 10 now that we actually get play the game. Che, the community manager at Turn 10 is just being ridiculed at Neogaf for his past comments, but I think Che is simply trying to save face for the ridiculous comments/promises that Dan Greenwalt has made regarding Forza 3, most of which is just flat out not true.

[LuFeng]

ill be getting Forza 3 for sure and it looks pretty damn good to me. sure it may be lacking in some areas but those areas arent goign to make me not get it.


on the same note ill still be getting GT5 as well so its a win win for me for both systems because ill have the best of both worlds.

[zero2000]

Originally Posted by LuFeng

ill be getting Forza 3 for sure and it looks pretty damn good to me. sure it may be lacking in some areas but those areas arent goign to make me not get it.


on the same note ill still be getting GT5 as well so its a win win for me for both systems because ill have the best of both worlds.

I would love to get Forza 3, but I think I might be throwing down some cash for a G25 or a G27 wheel to use on the PC/PS3. I don't know how much I would play Forza 3 on my wheel-less 360. I will definitely check the game out though.

Microsoft needs to stop being so grumpy and just allow G25/G27 support for the 360. XD

[LuFeng]

Originally Posted by zero2000

I would love to get Forza 3, but I think I might be throwing down some cash for a G25 or a G27 wheel to use on the PC/PS3. I don't know how much I would play Forza 3 on my wheel-less 360. I will definitely check the game out though.

Microsoft needs to stop being so grumpy and just allow G25/G27 support for the 360. XD

i hear ya there. personally i admire peopel that can use a wheel and still drive worth a shit to be honest. ive tried the wheels (a friend of mine has a driving set up that has the chair with feed back, a wheel, brakes,gas pedal attatched so they wont move etc. he spent about 800.00 on it) and i drive worse on that than i do with a regular controller. but i agree they should support the G25/27. i hear alot of peopel asking why they dont.


either way though both systems will have great racing games thats for sure.

[Marvin Wong]

I'm still thinking if I should buy the Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo S wheel. It looks a competitor to the G25. It supports both PS3 and Xbox 360 but man... 300$+ is expensive... I already have the G25 and I love it to death when I play GT5P. So I'm not sure because I really want to play Forza 3 with clutch and H-pattern shifter... Damn, this is so tempting.

I'll probably get the collector edition too. Fujimi Kaido is just that amazing. I can't wait to race BMI style.

[zero2000]

Originally Posted by LuFeng

i hear alot of peopel asking why they dont.

It is all about pushing proprietary hardware. Always has been, which is why MS probably won't open up support for those wheels.

Want a 360 wheel? Well you probably have to get the MS one.
Want a bigger harddrve? Gotta get one through Microsoft.
Want wireless internet? Microsoft again!
Want non-HDMI HD Cables? Gotta get Microsoft's
Want a headset? Well....there are some third party ones, but it is mostly Microsoft. lol.

[Silver_Night_Shado]

Okay, having played both games (Prolouge of course) GT5 definately has Forza on Graphics. But Forza has the feel and touch of a real car, it is much better in my eyes...

[NewGamer]

hmmm hopefully the game turns out ok,

hopefully they keep the cars for forza 2,
thats one of the main reasons i play it
haha